V finally has a friend.

[readyy2009]

Sounds exciting but I also feel your pain...Parts of those texts made me cringe but at this stage you really don't have a leg to stand on...Were you expecting to be more involved in all of this?

[newUK]

Wow what a thread. What an amazing well written account and what an absolute ride you are on!!

It’s taken me a while to read it all as I couldn’t stop jerking off to the images in my head of what you were experiencing.

So much of what you describe resonates with me. The angst and the complete shift in mood after you have cum is spot on. I’ve struggled to cope with both myself.

You are doing a great job. Just be careful not to blow it all. Be honest with her, keep the communication going. Let her know you have some concerns but also highlight you don’t want to try and stop her, nor take control of her. Just ask her to perhaps check in with you occasionally in terms of her own mental state in all of this.

Good luck and I can’t wait to hear about her first gangbang. We all know that’s gonna happen. And you know you want it to :-)

[all4fun]

Scenarios of every kind have been racing around my head lately after Vs recent leap. Given the progression of things it was time for V and I to have a longer talk. I wanted to know where her head was and where this was going since I have given her open dating privileges. She has taken full advantage of them. In the past two weeks she has had sex with each Brian, Darnell, and Amari more than once. She has been very sexually active.

V has always been a sexual creature. When we first met, even though I had slept with more people (I was 3 years older and a bit of a player for a time) she knew way more than I did. She was the first and only girl I fucked in the ass and asked me to do it. Back in the day, especially before kids, it was not uncommon for us to have sex 2-3 times per day, when I was home anyway. V used to masturbate a lot when I travelled. Believe me, I had the fantasy of her taking lovers back then, but I was too immature for it and kept it a hidden fantasy.

I did encourage her to pleasure herself as much as she wanted though and loved it when her toys became a lot larger than me, knowing she was at home "cucking " me with dildos twice as big as me. Coming home after being away for 3-4 days to slip into my young wife's used pussy, having her tell me deeper or harder because she had been used to a much larger toy. This only fueled my hotwife fantasies. Looking back, I am sure not pursuing it was the right decision. At the time we lived in an "up and coming" neighborhood that was still predominantly black. If we had started her fucking other guys back then, with her high sex drive, her "slutty" days from college only recently behind her, and her now known preference for black guys, things might have gotten out of control.

Over time we slowed down to being active about 3 times per week, but more recently (the last few years) it has been more like 3-4 times per month. That all changed 7 months ago when she started dating Darnell. Not only did she start having sex more, but she also started masturbating frequently again. Her sex drive had kicked it up a notch, but the last few weeks she has been on fire. She even admitted to "thinking" about sex often throughout the day. Her bulls have turned her into a sexual creature again.

Sunday night the conversation did not go as planned at all, and it somehow turned into what a queen of spades meant but ended up with me gaining an understanding of her current psyche. I also admitted I wanted her to lock me in a cage and reinforced how much I liked her talking shit to me.

In fairness, as she was recalling her last few weeks with her bulls, and upcoming dates, I was calling her a queen of spades. I have been calling her that a lot lately. V had consumed some wine. We shared more wine as we talked. V was feeling loose, and I always know the alcohol opens her up. My Dad always called it truth serum.

Right after teasingly calling her a queen of spades.

"You think I'm a queen of spades, what does that mean?"

"A queen of spades means that you prefer having sex with black guys, it's pretty simple." I told her.

"I don't think that it is that simple. So, if I'm a queen of spades, what type of commitment does that mean? Does that mean I mostly have sex with black guys? Or does it mean I only have sex with black guys? Or do I just like sex with black guys better?”

"That's up to you I. Do you?" I asked.

"Do I what?"

"Do you like fucking black guys better?" I asked.

"Uh, I don't know."

"Well, you've now had sex with four different black guys of various ages. By my count you now have all four as bulls who you can probably fuck when you want to. You have been having a lot of sex without me lately. Do you like it more?"

"I don't know, you're the only white guy I've had sex with in two and a half decades. I will say that now that I have had sex with a few other men, and we are good, it's much easier now."

"Let me phrase it this way. If you were to look for a sexual partner, would they be black or white? Be honest, don't worry about my feelings. Afterall, I'm turned on by the queen of spades thing."

"I don't get it, why do you like that?" She asked.

"I guess I’ve got a cuckold side and I like knowing you prefer fucking hung black guys. Now answer the question. Who are you going to pick? The white guy or the black guy?"

"The black guy." She answered.

"Okay, why?"

"Um, I don't know."

"Yes, you do, tell me."

"Okay. I like the vibe they give off. They are just more dominant and forceful. It's just easier to submit. They also have bigger dicks, and they know how to use them."

"What else?"

"I like the skin contrast too. I just find it hot."

"Okay, you'd rather have sex with a black guy, you sound like a queen of spades to me babe."

V laughed. "I guess I am by your definition. Is that weird?"

"How so?" I asked.

"Well, I am married to you, and you are a white guy, but yet I like having sex with black guys."

"Don't overthink it. You like what you like. At this point in your life do you care why you like something, or care what other people think? It may be a phase too. It's new, exciting, and different. There is an element of risk and excitement that may wear off at some point."

"Does it bother you?" She asked.

"No, it kind of turns me on. I knew years ago when we started using big toys that I could not fully satisfy you with just my cock. I've always found it a turn on that you wanted more than I could give you. So no, it does not bother me that you prefer guys with bigger dicks, and it doesn't matter if they are black or white, younger, or older. It's quite the opposite, I like it. I just like seeing you satisfied. Plus, I think you are totally built for black cock."

V laughed, "How so?"

"Well, you have a big ass for a little woman, which black guys like, you like it rough, and your pussy can handle a lot. Face it, you are perfect for BBC."

V laughed again, "I am. So, if I said I was only going to have sex with black guys from now on you'd be okay with that?"

"Of course, I love you. I want to support your sexual needs as a good husband and partner. Do you only want to have sex with black guys?"

"Even if that means I don't fuck you anymore. If I'm black only, I'm black only."

"No, I cannot give up sex with you."

"Good, I was just testing you. You better want to keep having sex with me."

"I have enjoyed it when you deny me or talk shit to me."

"I know. What does that look like to you?"

"Uh, it means that sometimes you don't let me have sex with you. Maybe I can only lick your pussy, or you make me jerk off like the other night. It's just a tease for fun and I can override it, but it turns me on."

"I can be onboard with that. It gives me power. I like that. Some nights I am just exhausted after my time with my bull. I just want you to cum so I can get some sleep. Maybe those nights I tell you no."

"Okay."

"This is kind of hot. I like being in control of you. My cuckold." V said.

These next sentences were hard for me to get out and I could not look her in the eyes. I have battled with these ideas and feelings and although they turn me on, make me feel like I am dirty and pathetic. "I also like it when you talk about how much bigger they are or how much better they fuck you."

"That's because it's true. I love you babe, but I'm sorry, you cannot compete. I just didn't think you'd want to hear it."

The way she said this was so matter of fact. It was like a knife to the heart, yet it drove me crazy.

"There is something else. You could cage me too if you want. You know, a cock cage. I would like that." I told her, still not looking her in the eyes.

"What, lock your dick in a cage." She said laughing.

"Yes, sometimes I have a hard time controlling myself when you are out with Darnell, or the other guys now, and jerk off. This would stop me from doing it and you'd be in control."

"So, I fuck my boyfriends, and get to lock and unlock you and control when you cum. I'm in control."

"Yes, basically."

"Okay."

"Okay, what?"

"Okay, I'll do it. Get your little cage and I'll lock your little dick up in it."

"Remember our night with Darnell last month. The one when we had the big suite. When I left you alone, I actually came back to the room to watch you. You didn't hear me come in. You thought you were alone with him."

“You were spying on me?"

"Yes. Do you remember what you said?"

V blushed a little and stammered. Not, umm, no, not exactly. I tend to say a lot of things when I'm without you. You know I like talking dirty and Darnell loves talking it to me."

"You said a lot of things. To sum it up you basically said you love black cock, and you only want to fuck black guys. You also said white guys could not satisfy you. Listen, I'm not mad or upset. It's quite the opposite. It turns me on, a lot. You should be black only beside me if that is what you want. Just promise you won't leave me."

"I can't believe we are having this discussion. I never thought our marriage would take us here. You know I love you more than anything. You are my person. My other half. I could not or would not want to go through life without you. At this point I don't know how."

She paused for a moment. "I can't explain it, but I had built it up in my mind for so long about what it would be like. I have always been really attracted to black guys. I just...........can't explain it. And then Darnell comes along, and he's huge and strong, and can make me cum so many times. I did not know sex could be like that. The other guys come along, and wow, they are different, just different. They are just masculine dominant. In the six months I have been having sex with black guys I can't help but think about it all the time now. It feels wrong because we are married, but my sexual attraction is to big black guys. I still love you. I love you more than anything. You really are my soulmate. I mean it."

I thought about pointing out to V that not all black guys were hung. Derek may have been luck of the draw, and perhaps his giant dick is what drew him to the lifestyle and gave him the confidence to court married hotties like V. The other guys had been handpicked though, and for every one hung guy I found for V, I passed on another twenty guys who were average. What was the point though? In V's experience and mind, black dudes had big dicks.

V closed her eyes. "When I close my eyes, I can picture their huge black cocks sliding into me, stretching me wide and deep. It makes me tingle."

She laughed and opened her eyes. "See, now I'm horny."

"Fuck, that just made my cock so hard." I told her.

V laughed again. "Okay, deal. I promise you will be the last white guy who has sex with me. Yeah, you know what. If anything, ever happens to you, my next husband will be black and hung. Actually, maybe I won't even get married again, maybe I will just keep a stable of BBC's."

She was clearly pushing my buttons on purpose now. "Fuck, that is really hot." I told her.

"You're fucked up. It's true though. Good thing you married me before this. There is some truth to the once you go black thing."

This made my cock hard. I know she was just doing a lot of teasing at this point, but there was a hint of truth to her tone. I was not sure how to transition into the next question, so I just blurted it out?

"What about a gangbang? I asked, knowing she had already discussed it with Derek.

She paused and put it back on me. "What do you think about one?"

She already knew the answer to this. The gangbang fantasy goes back as long as the hotwife fantasy. We have discussed it in depth, watched plenty of gangbang porn, and even role played the scenario with dildos.

"You know how I feel about it. It's been a huge fantasy for years. I saw some of the texts with Derek."

"Oh, what else did you see?"

"Enough, enough to know Derek is serious about making you his play toy, or slut, to share."

"And you're okay with that?"

"As long as you are. If it turns you on, I am all for it."

"I can't explain it. I've always had a fantasy about submitting completely to an in-control man. I was not sure what that looked like. Maybe it is this. He's the right guy for it. Being in a room full of men who all want to use me. It makes me nervous and anxious, but not in a bad way."

"I think you should do it."

"He wanted me to do it last time."

"I know."

"I mean he was pushing for it more than I told you. He almost had me talked into it. I was too afraid though. There is something else I did not tell you. When we ordered room service, he made me answer the door completely naked."

"Fuck, that is hot. You did it."

"Yes. That's not all. He told me that if it was a man I would suck his cock as a tip."

"Was he, did you?"

"No, it was a young Hispanic woman."

"That's too bad. That would have been hot."

"Really? You'd be okay with me sucking a complete stranger for a tip."

"No, it’s more the idea of you sucking who your bull tells you to. Would you have?"

"I was prepared to."

"So, if you're willing to suck off someone for Derek, you are willing to fuck other men for him?"

"I don't know. I'm scared."

"Of what?"

"I don't know, of not having control. Of having him do what he wants."

"Isn't that submitting to him? Isn't that what you have wanted?"

"Yes, but it's scary. It sounds hot and is exciting, but I'm not sure."

"I think you should do it. Submit to Derek and be his slut. You've always had this fantasy, right? Why not try it at least once."

"If I do that, it means a gangbang."

"Yes, and if you do, you'll officially be a queen of spades. And if you're officially a queen of spades, you should get a tattoo."

"Fuck off, I am not getting a queen of spades tattoo."

"C'mon, it's the least you can do for me. Some women actually have them. I'll let you fuck as many guys as you want. Just get a queen of spades tattoo, your nipples pierced, and your labia pierced too."

This pissed her off. V can flip on a switch sometimes.

"Fuck off, you and you're perversions. You're a sicko. You want me to look like a porn star. If I'm officially a queen of spades, then you're just my little dick cuckold. Maybe I don't fuck you anymore. I don't need to. I've got boyfriends and a drawer full of big dicks. I certainly don't need you anymore. I know you just like jerking off to me getting fucked anyway. No more white guys in my pussy, including you. Here's the deal. If I get a tattoo, you are never allowed to fuck me again. Is that what you want?"

"Fuck. No. The idea is hot, but I still have to have sex with you."

"Well, if you want me to get a tattoo that bad then no more pussy for you."

"You'd really never have sex with me again?"

"If you make me get that stupid tattoo I might."


This was not the first time, nor would it be the last time I asked V to get her pussy and/or tits pierced. I had been asking her for years. She never really considered it but has allowed me to decorate her pussy and nipples with fake rings and model them for me. For such a petite person, V has a big meaty pussy that looks built for big cocks, which I absolutely love, and it looks fantastic decorated with rings.


I had not asked her to get a queen of spades tattoo before, and I would be asking her again. It was also not the first time she ever threatened to cut me off. She has told me throughout the years when I have done or said dumb things that if I don't smarten up, I won't be having sex with her again. Before everyone projects their pussy free fantasy on us, this is never going to happen, ever. We enjoy sex too much and even if V enjoys me toying or licking her over fucking her, she still likes having sex with me. The exchange was more banter and teasing, and making her point that she will never get a real queen of spades tattoo. Just like piercing her tits of pussy, she has made it clear. Temporary ones are a different story though. I ordered some as a surprise. We'll see how that goes.


V had admitted her attraction to black guys. She was not kidding. I have known this since the early days of our hotwife talks, with her admission and past actions, so it's not a surprise. Maybe it's a phase. The newness, taboo, and excitement of it all, but the way she talks right now is she is serious about only dating black guys. It makes me think back to things she has said over the years. One thing is her doting over mixed race babies and kids and how great looking they were.

Makes me wonder. Did she always want a mixed baby? What if we had started this journey 10 or 20 years ago, would she have mixed kids now. I met her at 19. What if she started fucking black guys before me met. Would she have cut off white guys. What about me? Would we even have our kids? So much self-doubt sometimes. It tears at me.


I also learned that she is further along than I thought with submitting to Derek. There are no concrete plans to meet Derek anytime soon. He lives far away, and travels quite a bit, but the seed is planted.

As for my fantasies. It's still all new and confusing. For decades I dreamed of a hotwife, better yet a slut wife. She's far from what I would consider a slut, but her activity and direction make it a real possibility considering she has now slept with four other men and at least in the short term, now has three regular bulls. She was also going to suck a total stranger's cock on the whim of her bull. Now that she is becoming the girl of my dreams, I have to ask myself if this is what I really dream about. Am I prepared for it?

My psyche is excited and scared right now. I have watched V finally turn her BBC fantasy into reality in the last 7/8 months. Lately, she has become captivated with the idea of BBC, interracial, and being a cuckoldress. She has been immersed in her interracial books.


I am not sure what comes next or how to navigate it. Is this just a phase for V? Or am I now married to a woman who prefers what I do not have. For many years I knew I did not satisfy her need to feel full, which is why we have a large collection of marital aids. Is this what she was warning me about when I was nudging her to become a hotwife?

I also have this fear that if I tell her to stop doing this, or not go there, or not see this person, she may sour to the whole idea. She is very sensitive to my feelings as she is concerned that I am happy. If she feels that I am uncomfortable or unhappy I could see her shutting the entire thing down. I do not want that.


Her activity has been picking up recently. Is she going to fuck a bunch of guys. What is happening to her own psyche with a guy like Darnell? It has been half a year of him constantly telling her, or making her say, she loves black cock, she’s built for it, white guys can’t fuck, etc. Does she think this now? On top of that, his mentor, Derek, has his hooks into her and is lining her up to submit to him and fuck his “friends”.

I know it sounds totally cliche, but is she going to be a black cock slut? I'm dead fucking serious. It's hard to wrap my head around. People’s behavior can absolutely be conditioned. Are these guys purposely trying to recondition V. Am I just being paranoid? I have not intervened at all. I’ve been so happy V is actually hotwifing I have just let her, and the guys be.

I know I have long fantasized about V becoming a raunchy hotwife, but now that it is becoming "real" I feel almost lost, paralyzed, sometimes. Reading through this forum and others over the years, I do not feel it is uncommon though. When fantasy becomes reality, right.

[Southernman]

Awesome write up! Thanks

[funfortwo]

Amazing story....a lot to digest, but exciting nonetheless!! What are the names/authors of the interracial books she read?

[newUK]

The cock cage is going to drive you insane, all in a good way. When you are locked you become even hornier. All your sexual emotions and conflicts will intensify.

I still recall how horny I was the very first time I wore one.

My advice to you when purchasing is don’t spend too much on the first one. It took me a few purchases to find the most comfortable and perfect fitting one.
I can wear it for weeks without discomfort, albeit with ‘supervised’ removal for cleaning down below every few days. You will leak pre-cum constantly after a couple of weeks so it’s essential you get that cleaned up before it hardens and causes damage.

A poor fitting one will mean you might be able to remove it without a key. Too small or too tight will cause pain and you’ll not enjoy that.

Start in small steps. A few hours, then longer. Then try overnight, that’s when you’ll appreciate the proper fit, your nocturnal erections will pull on your scrotum and a poor fit will leave chafing. Painful!!

But the trial and error is ever so worth it. I love the humiliation of her making me show her boyfriends that I’m wearing one.

Good luck and get ready for how much more subservient you will want to be to her if she is holding the key and denying you a release. You will get to a point where you will do anything for her to be allowed to release! Sometimes I last only seconds after a long lock up (6 weeks is my max). Her laughing and telling me I’m pathetic made me want to be locked straight back up :-)

[Greg_N_Shelley]

I'm enjoying your updates very much. It's always inspiring when couples embark on the HW/cuckold journey and the 'pieces fall into place' organically. It sounds like V is having the time of her life, while equally conscious of the love of her life. And your wildest dreams have come true (sans the piercings and tattoos). It's beautiful.

I am curious...I gather you join her and Darnell from time to time. Have you met Derek yet? If V is entertaining the idea of deeper submission to Derek and his direction of her experiences, it seems it would be worth getting to know the guy. Being the player he is, I don't see a potential problem of emotional attachment. But I do see value in him understanding that maintaining your trust is just as important as her trust. Besides, it might be fun to passively watch your girl submissively yielding to his direction in doing things that you know step beyond her historical boundaries. (I get rather hard when I imagine Shelley in that situation!)

Thanks for keeping us updated. And special thanks for the posted pics of V. She's pure dynamite!

[BallSpanking]

It sounds like V has been on a gradual progression since marrying you.

You suggested bigger for her, and she liked it. You planted the seed, and she took to it. She was already BBC curious, and you kept encouraging her.
She fucked her first BBC and loved it, and you encouraged her to date more BBC's.

Now she is dating several BBC's and possibly is desirous of being BBC 'owned', this now opens the door to V being shared.
V is loving it, and seems she is all-in, finally living out her dreams.

If you see her pull back from this, be there for her, give her the emotional support she seeks ...
But I sure would not count on her backing out at this point. If anything she is just now really getting into it.

It would be an excellent idea to make some belated red lines. Any guys who fuck her have to have a recent 'all clear' test ...
But this may be out of your hands.

[venus-can99]

Thanks for the exciting, erotic, emotional and reflective update A4F. I don’t necessarily agree with the “slut” label on women who seek sexual gratification with multiple men and women. It is very interesting to read V’s progression with BBCs with your loving support

[DLD]

Interesting developments!