she has feelings?

[Zangze]

She definitely seems to want it, and even seems somewhat annoyed that she keeps telling you to do it and you've still not done so.

As I've said before, I think we can all totally understand why you'd choose not to do it. However, that bit of annoyance in her statements tells me that if you're not going to push the go button you really need to drop it entirely. Now it's a thing that she really wants, and what you're doing, while refusing to actually move forward, could be perceived by her as teasing her with it. It's possible that if it continues it could become a problem between you two even without his direct involvement.

Whatever you choose to do, I hope it goes well for everyone involved, and everyone is happy. I think it would be prudent though for you to sit down by yourself, really decide what it is that YOU want out of this situation, resolve yourself to make that choice, and then either hit go or hit stop. I don't think she can get any more blatant about what she wants you to do than she has, and trying to get her to risks causing problems of a whole different kind than moving forward does.

[Guhunkadorn]

Thanks for update - which was sort of hot....I'm going along with what FNQ posted.

Good luck.

[shesmypornstar]

Right after my last post, which was only hours ago, I had the overwhelming feeling that I should just tell her that if she wants me to tell him that we're separating, I'll do it. I was horny and tired in the moment and thought to myself that I should just go back to bed and see how I felt when I woke up. Well, I felt pretty much the same when I woke up so I decided to do it in a playful way and I turned it into a game. Sounds stupid, but hear me out.

I think I mentioned it here once or twice, but earlier this year I came up with a little game we call "the 30 second challenge" In general, the game goes like this. Her or I come up with a "punishment" for me, and I'm only punished if shes able to make me cum with her hand in 30 seconds or less. Because cumming that quickly is such a tall task, the punishment ideas are always more extreme. Some examples include me having to lick up my mess, or her locking me up for a predetermined period of time. The challenge and interesting part in this is 2 fold. First, what kind of things can she say to make me cum in 30 seconds? And second, does the idea of my punishment turn me on so much that I cum in 30 seconds?

Now the kicker for this particular situation is this. We've had this game for about a year, I've come up with a ton of ideas, I've suggested a lot of scenarios, or asked for a 30 second challenge at least twice monthly since we came up with the idea, but shes only taken me up on the idea 3 times in the past year. So although its a game, and it was my roundabout attempt to making the offer to her, if she comes to me and says that its time for this 30 second challenge, then I know its not just a game for her. I mean honestly, with all the context shes given me over the past month, I know she wants me to tell him.

So via text, this morning went like this.

Me: Best 30 second challenge idea ever. Make me cum in 30 seconds and I have to tell him we're separating. That would show me how badly you really want me to tell him. Oh, and I'm obviously getting locked up and giving you both the keys until I tell him.

Her: I've got nothing right now. If you want me to be able to do these stories then you have to invite him around. You see what I'm like after he's been around, and you still don't help yourself.

Me: I wasn't saying you have to do it. Just came up with an idea for you to help yourself. But yea, I'll be better and invite him around more.

Her: Help me help you. After interacting with him I always come up with some good stuff.

So ok, a little push back there, but she knows why I'm making the offer and I know she wants to see him more. Do I think she'll move forward with this idea if I invite him over? Yes, not only will she come up with something hot to say after seeing him, but she'll be having some butterflies after seeing him and she'll be in the mindset of wanting to have more from him, so yes I do think she'll eventually take me up on this challenge. The interesting thing will obviously be if she takes me up on the offer before seeing him.

Maybe I should've taken a more direct approach, I guess its not too late for that. But right now I can say that I'm 100% on board with helping open that door for her if thats what she wants.

[Guhunkadorn]

What exactly does she mean: "....and you still don't help yourself"?

That you don't take advantage of her Horney state and fuck her?

[shesmypornstar]

What exactly does she mean: "....and you still don't help yourself"?

That you don't take advantage of her Horney state and fuck her?

I think she means that I don't invite him over more even though I know she wants me to and I know she'll plan on it after

[Guhunkadorn]

That's logical, thanks.

Here's a scenario you could with: you invite him over, you and the wife sit apart from each other while the three of you socialize, in fact she could sit closer to him all the while maintaining friendliness towards each other ( you and her ) but minus any affection. Refer to each other by first names as any typical friend in the neighborhood would. Avoid 'dear', 'honey', 'babe' when speaking to each other. So all your verbal and nonverbal behaviors towards each other convey a platonic relationship but NOT a loving spousal one.

You two could have fun with that and weigh in the moment where it could go. Perhaps she leaves to make a call or run a quick errand. Something that could take a while. During her absence he may inquire if everything is all right between you two. Of course he may say nothing.

If she's feeling it she could flash you the pinky/index finger cuck symbol to green light or maybe challenge you to bring up the separation to him...while she's out of the room.

There's a lot of directions it could go but that could definitely give you two some sexy time banter.

Overall it does seem like the boiling point is not too far off.

[hwc]

she's my pornstar,

that is the hottest idea ever! and so risky, things are really upping a gear now. Can't wait to hear how things progress now and wondering if you do the 30 second challenge, what she's going to say to make you explode. please remember every word she tells you so that you can tell us once it has happened!

Also, are you inviting him around more like she asked, like you know she wants and are you going to help make sure she is dressed sexily, so that the message to him is clear?

[bradisalpha]

Right after my last post, which was only hours ago, I had the overwhelming feeling that I should just tell her that if she wants me to tell him that we're separating, I'll do it. I was horny and tired in the moment and thought to myself that I should just go back to bed and see how I felt when I woke up. Well, I felt pretty much the same when I woke up so I decided to do it in a playful way and I turned it into a game. Sounds stupid, but hear me out.

I think I mentioned it here once or twice, but earlier this year I came up with a little game we call "the 30 second challenge" In general, the game goes like this. Her or I come up with a "punishment" for me, and I'm only punished if shes able to make me cum with her hand in 30 seconds or less. Because cumming that quickly is such a tall task, the punishment ideas are always more extreme. Some examples include me having to lick up my mess, or her locking me up for a predetermined period of time. The challenge and interesting part in this is 2 fold. First, what kind of things can she say to make me cum in 30 seconds? And second, does the idea of my punishment turn me on so much that I cum in 30 seconds?

Now the kicker for this particular situation is this. We've had this game for about a year, I've come up with a ton of ideas, I've suggested a lot of scenarios, or asked for a 30 second challenge at least twice monthly since we came up with the idea, but shes only taken me up on the idea 3 times in the past year. So although its a game, and it was my roundabout attempt to making the offer to her, if she comes to me and says that its time for this 30 second challenge, then I know its not just a game for her. I mean honestly, with all the context shes given me over the past month, I know she wants me to tell him.

So via text, this morning went like this.

Me: Best 30 second challenge idea ever. Make me cum in 30 seconds and I have to tell him we're separating. That would show me how badly you really want me to tell him. Oh, and I'm obviously getting locked up and giving you both the keys until I tell him.

Her: I've got nothing right now. If you want me to be able to do these stories then you have to invite him around. You see what I'm like after he's been around, and you still don't help yourself.

Me: I wasn't saying you have to do it. Just came up with an idea for you to help yourself. But yea, I'll be better and invite him around more.

Her: Help me help you. After interacting with him I always come up with some good stuff.

So ok, a little push back there, but she knows why I'm making the offer and I know she wants to see him more. Do I think she'll move forward with this idea if I invite him over? Yes, not only will she come up with something hot to say after seeing him, but she'll be having some butterflies after seeing him and she'll be in the mindset of wanting to have more from him, so yes I do think she'll eventually take me up on this challenge. The interesting thing will obviously be if she takes me up on the offer before seeing him.

Maybe I should've taken a more direct approach, I guess its not too late for that. But right now I can say that I'm 100% on board with helping open that door for her if thats what she wants.

Yes.. that is what she wants.

Brad

[hwc]

shesmypornstar, you said:

"the 30 second challenge" In general, the game goes like this. Her or I come up with a "punishment" for me, and I'm only punished if shes able to make me cum with her hand in 30 seconds or less.

and...

what kind of things can she say to make me cum in 30 seconds? And second, does the idea of my punishment turn me on so much that I cum in 30 seconds?

How about telling her that to make it hotter for you both, you stack the odds in favor of a trial separation happening in the game?

She has suggested getting her fired up first, by having her spend time with him beforehand.

I'm thinking along the lines of also purposefully having a pre-challenge discussion, where you have to tell her exactly what she can say and do during the challenge to ensure she gets you worked up enough, to not hold out. Also, from what you have mentioned previously, this could perhaps include her acting extra bitchy towards you, during and just before the '30 second challenge"

[shesmypornstar]

Oh she definitely knows what to do and say to make me cum in under 30 seconds. Thats what makes this such a good way to go about it. She gives me uninspired HJs a lot, so if she comes in trying to make me cum in under 30 seconds, then I know shes thought this over and wants to prove it to me.

That said, we did have a little fun that night, though she said the opportunity to tell him about the separation has passed. Right now she just wants him around more and is wondering if he's dating again. Once she knows he's single, I think we'll be ready to move forward with the separation conversation. I tried to get her to tell me to tell him, but she said that I already know what I need to do next so that she can have confidence that she'll have a chance if he thinks shes available. She was able to make me cum relatively quick though, telling me that her non negotiable with him is that she'll be swallowing his cum every time she sucks his cock which she never does for me. She fantasizes about it a lot too, so much so that she told me the first 3 times she goes to his house for hookups she'll be going down on him in the foyer as soon as the front door closes behind her, swallowing his cum, and continuing to suck until hes ready to fuck her.

She has gone out of her way a bit to text him behind my back recently. Nothing crazy (that I know of, I haven't checked) but I do know shes texting him. As a single guy, I'm assuming he reads into that a bit and has some inclination that shes into him.

[Anax81]

My wife had feelings only for her previous bull - lover and that's why she tried having a baby with him.

[larryt]

I feel that the path to success (defined as her getting fucked by the neighbor) is not to do anything radical, like the separation, but to take little steps down the slippery slope until suddenly...

For example, you help arrange them to spend as much time together with no one else around except you. Encourage her to flirt, a little less subtly each time. Leave them alone together for awhile. Have her wear sexy but deniable clothing when he's around. Maybe someone will need a back rub... Since she's actively asking, almost begging, you to do this, it shouldn't be that hard.

Meanwhile, keep her aroused by talking about what she did with him, what she will do next time, what she would ultimately like to do with him, etc. during sex. Both of you will associate him with your arousal.

At this point, I haven't heard you say something indicating he's unambiguously interested. Obviously, you need to figure that out first.

I'd say, don't consider the separation idea (or, someone mentioning that you have an open relationship, or any of several other explicit nudges) unless he's clearly interested but unwilling to have her cheat with him.

The incremental progress should be really thrilling for both of you. And for us -- I'd love to hear lots of progress report about get-togethers and her flirting...

[hwc]

So...

have they spent any time together yet? Is that what you want to happen?

Also, wondered if you have discussed what things will look like down the line, if they really hit it off together, and wondered what your feelings will be then, for instance do you feel you will still be a cheer-leader for their budding romance and encouraging them to go further?

[shesmypornstar]

So...

have they spent any time together yet? Is that what you want to happen?

Also, wondered if you have discussed what things will look like down the line, if they really hit it off together, and wondered what your feelings will be then, for instance do you feel you will still be a cheer-leader for their budding romance and encouraging them to go further?

They haven't spent any meaningful time together recently. Invites have been made, schedules just haven't aligned. A couple run ins here or there, but thats about it. We do have a tentative thing planned, and shes promised to make me feel like a 3rd wheel.

A couple weeks back she was teasing me and told me she had something that she's been holding onto for a while and that if i was a good boy she'd tell me. I played along, half thinking this was something made up, half hoping it wasn't. When we got down to it she started talking about the sexual tension that they have. I agreed that yes, indeed there seems to be some sexual tension. She goes on to say that usually if theres tension, theres a reason behind it. Ok, shes got my interest. She goes on to tell me that maybe 1.5-2 years ago they kissed, actually she kissed him, but he kissed her back. So in the moment I'm kinda turned on, kinda not buying it, this is something shes told me once before. That said, she didn't really have too much else to say about it besides when and where it happened. It was hot though, I came, then I moved on and just told myself that it was a made up story. A couple days ago I asked if she really kissed him and she said yea. My response was that considering we've been looking for a way to break the ice with him, why didn't you just tell him that you told me? Her response was, yea and then what? We got sidetracked and dropped the conversation. Again, leaving me thinking it was just a story, but it had me wondering.

But I got to thinking a bit. Yes, she did tell me once before that she kissed him, and that story happened to be after this new revelation took place. The last time she told me she kissed him, I asked for the real truth and she told me that her story was made up. The more I thought about it, I stared to realize that shes told me many many times about dreams shes had in which we were out together in a group, they somehow get some space, she kisses him, he freaks out that I'm going to be mad and she reassures him that I wont be. Again, those weren't stories, just dreams shes told me about. So last night I start wondering if the dreams were in fact attached to this one time kiss that she just told me about and I didn't think much of.

So I'm out of town and last night my curiosity started getting to me and I texted her...

Me: Did you really kiss him?
Her: Yep
Me: 100% truth?
Her: Bible baby
Me: How did that never get discussed between you guys
Her: It did
Me: How'd that go?
Her: That can't happen again
Me: Who said that?
Her: Both
Me: Was there any buts?
Her: No
Me: So you kissed one time for like 5 seconds then never again?
Her: Yea, now we just live with the tension
Me: He has no idea that I'm ok with it?
Her: No

She was getting tired and I knew she wanted to go to bed so I pivoted quickly with a new question and asked her whats the bitchiest or most direct thing she'd feel comfortable saying around him that would 100% give off the Cuck vibe? She said that she'd say something about my small cock or that I suck in bed, or that hes hot and a good dad. So who knows if she'll actually take this tone or approach, I've definitely been making it known that I'm craving the cuck treatment. We had a nice night out Saturday and she walked out of the house in a really hot pair of white leather over the knee high heeled boots. At the end of the night I told her the only thing that would've made it better is if she would have shown me her outfit then demanded that I put on my cage. That goes right in line with my recent reminder to her that I want her to demand that I cage up anytime we know we're going to see him.

That all said, I'm curious if she'll say anything cucky or humiliating towards me next time we see him, I'm dying for her to make me cage up knowing we'll see him, and I'm starting to think she actually did kiss him. Thoughts?

[shesmypornstar]

On another note, my performance anxiety with her has gotten really out of control over the past few months. I've gone from having stamina and the ability to last long enough for her to cum, and I've become a 5 minute man. And if I'm being honest 5 minutes is probably the total time I've lasted between the last 2-3 times we've fucked. I've cum early the last 5 times now and I'm honestly not sure we've had sex for a total of 15 minutes during those 5 times.

I'm not even thinking about him and her together, now when we start I'm just trying not to cum and I can't hold off. Last time she came with me which was hot, but i had to apologize after. I was honest and told her that I came really early twice in a row (i couldn't not think of them) but since then I'm just trying so hard not to cum early that I do. She acknowledged that it sucked, both that I'm having that issue and that the sex hasn't really lasted long enough to be good

[elina]

On another note, my performance anxiety with her has gotten really out of control over the past few months. I've gone from having stamina and the ability to last long enough for her to cum, and I've become a 5 minute man. And if I'm being honest 5 minutes is probably the total time I've lasted between the last 2-3 times we've fucked. I've cum early the last 5 times now and I'm honestly not sure we've had sex for a total of 15 minutes during those 5 times.

I'm not even thinking about him and her together, now when we start I'm just trying not to cum and I can't hold off. Last time she came with me which was hot, but i had to apologize after. I was honest and told her that I came really early twice in a row (i couldn't not think of them) but since then I'm just trying so hard not to cum early that I do. She acknowledged that it sucked, both that I'm having that issue and that the sex hasn't really lasted long enough to be good

Sounds like you have entered the true Cuck-state then; your dick is not useful for the Cuckoldress w.r.t. sexual gratification.
Are you providing proper Oral service for Her?
If not I would suggest that maybe you should ask Her to train you to become a really good pussy licker.

Sincerely
elina

[hwc]

I hope she remembers to be as bitchy as she can with you, next time they meet up properly. She could say something along the lines of complaining how you never take her on 'proper' romantic dates anymore and could then suggest that if your'e not going to do that, maybe she should find someone else to. She could say this infront of him, and either see if he (jokingly) offers, then seriously accept, or if doesn't make a move. she could (unrelatedly) ask him if he wants to go out sometime... with the delayed implication she means just them two. She could even say bluntly "we'll leave loser here home alone", or something along those lines

just some ideas to maybe kick around...

[shesmypornstar]

I've been thinking about the fact that lately I've been really quick to cum when we have sex, and that shes mentioned numerous times that she is frequently thinking of him when she cums during sex. So I want to add another element of "cucking" into our sex life and came up with two scenarios and a couple of possible punishments that she can chose from when either scenario occurs. After all, if I'm performing like a cuck sexually, I may as well be treated like one.

So, its really simple, and you guessed it...if I cum quickly during sex or if she has to think about him to orgasm while we're having sex, she gets to pick a punishment for me. I've come up with a couple punishments of my own for the scenario of her thinking of him during orgasm, but I'd love to get some idea from you all.

So, under the assumption that she cums while thinking of him, what happens next is completely up to her.
1) she immediately stops, gets into doggy position and makes me eat her ass while i finish myself off with my hand
2) she makes me get into the tub and makes me finish myself with my hand while she pisses on me telling me that its his cum
3) she lets me finish in her while telling me what a pathetic cuck i am, then makes me lock up and continues the night with talk about how she needs him to get the job done and that i'm inadequate etc.

Not sure why but i absolutely love the first idea right now. But I could also go with some extended time of her just treating me like her cuck similar to number 3. What ideas do you have for either scenario?

[elina]

Thank you Shesmypornostar

I think all of these ideas are wonderful, and I also think it is your Wife/Cuckoldress who should decide.
Also, I don't understand why locking you up is not part of all of these scenarios.

A cuck who has lost the ability to sexually service his Cuckoldress in a way which satisfies Her should be locked up in my opinion.

Sincerely
elina

[hwc]

Not sure why but i absolutely love the first idea right now. But I could also go with some extended time of her just treating me like her cuck similar to number 3. What ideas do you have for either scenerio?

Maybe, now that something happening seems imminent, she could have you locked up permanently until the separation conversation has happened, or beyond that until they officially become boyfriend and girlfriend. Then, you could be set free from the cage but not allowed intamacy with her, since you will be separated?

[Stantheman69]

When you have sex you should be encouraging her to think of him. Ask her to close her eyes and set the scene for a scenario where she’s alone with him. This has been magic for my wife. When we have sex mentally she is always with another man and I love it!

[larryt]

Wait, wait, wait! They kissed and then both said “never again”?! And his concern is that you might be mad?

All she has to do is kiss him again, and it’s off to the races. Why is she asking “what then”? All they have to do is what comes naturally, at whatever pace they choose. All you have to do is stay out of the way.

Encourage her. Talk about it in bed.

I don’t understand why this is not happening.

[hwc]

Would love an update on conversations the two of you have had lately! And of course an update of the Christmas period, any news there and plans for New Years Eve/New Years Day - any paties or get togethers discussed or planned? Particularly any fantasy talk on things that might happen, or ways in which she can act towards you?

[hwc]

We do have a tentative thing planned, and shes promised to make me feel like a 3rd wheel.

Also, did this happen yet?
Would love to hear about how she makes you feel like a 'third wheel' by her words and actions.

[Brute]

So, anything happen over the holiday season? Got a super bowl party your wife and neighbor can interact at. Summer has come and gone, things have moved slow; but maybe the dance of possible cuckolding is the important part.