Would you accept such a deal to be denied sex permanently?

[slowsteady]

More sex now caged you mean one sided oral sex on her and nothing for you right?

I just don't see what you guys get out of this denial thing but whatever floats your boat but not for me.

If my wife ever tried denying me the first thing I would do is fuck another woman and make sure she knew about it.

And if she still tried denying me I would divorce her just what I would do. I have too high of a sex drive to put up with this kind of thing I guess.

Some of us have some 'masochistic' tendencies and it is a 'turn on' to be kept horny and denied orgasm for a period of time, just as, for some people, pain can be pleasure. My wife enjoys making me pleasure her while my cock is locked in a cage, and for me there is a certain 'thrill' in being required to pleasure her while my swollen cock strains against the unyielding device; knowing that *she* is going to 'get off' and I will be denied that pleasure until some time in the future.

Having my own orgasm delayed/denied for some period of time heightens the pleasure when it is finally allowed, and the extended horniness/anticipation is incredibly erotic.

Try it, you might like it.

Have you ever been really hungry, and smelled a good meal cooking, knowing that there would be some delay before you would get to eat it? Was your enjoyment and pleasure not increased by the delay and anticipation?

ok I get it but this was about never having sex again not getting out of cage thing and when do still no releif right? Do you all you guys think your cocks are really that small, or has there maybe been some manipulation on your woman's side to make you feel insecure about this. Like before going down the cuckold road did they tell you you had a micro-penis and couldn't satisfy her.

I'm just wondering but hell it leaves more hotwife for me as a bf to fuck at your expense.

I don't have the biggest dick but sure not smallest either thank god I don't have a 3.5-4.0 in slim hard dick. But I would probably rather die than be cucked even if I did have a smaller cock.

" To each his own not putting anyone down just not for me I cant even imagine this for me"

I just look through this forum a bit was so moved by this topic my wife and I spent over an hour trying to get my mind around this no sex with wife ever again topic.

And I met a guy with a huge cock but was still a cuck so its from what I can tell a mindset attitude about being an alpha in charge of all his life the wife, other women and hotwife and cuck too if they are in my life. where this guy was a beta and wanted a bf alpha like me to be in charge of his life too as well as his hotwife.

Regardless what a man says, cuckolding totally emasculates any man. It doesn't matter about actual size. You know you are a bitch. Some guys accept the fact, learn their lesson and grow a pair. Live life again as a wiser man. Others might develop an incredible kink over their fascination with all of their emotions flooding from the reaction to cuckolding and its realities.

I have no desire to ever become emasculated. Again. I've experienced it. You are either clueless or know more than you ever wanted about it and its virtual nutlessness! I certainly have been cuckolded and experienced its full gamut of feelings. Exciting thoughts can inveigle a newly unmanned cuckold into many types of auto-masochistic Edens. It seems silly to the uninitiated, but the joys created by strict sexual denial make it well worth the pains for the right cuckold!

While I don't personally live this lifestyle, I certainly have cuckold fantasies! I understand how and why these men feel and I support their efforts in coping with the situation.

Like any other addiction, cuckolding quickly envelopes a man into a situation extremely difficult to escape. So, yeah. Cuckolds walk around sporting some sizeable sexual and psychological monkeys on their backs! Many wouldn't change it if they could! Meanwhile, wifey's cuntal fire is competently being stoked by the hard wood sprouting from her bf's shorts!

Life is good!

[whenwillshe]

Different strokes but not a chance for me to be denied

[Loserpaul]

My GF does not have sex with me anymore. I am allowed to masturbate as much as I like (and she encourages me to do so) and she will very, very, occasionally make me suck her bull's cock but that is the only sex I am permitted. She won't allow me to have sex with other women but I can have sex with men as long as I play a sub role (in fact I think she would like me to do that more). She wants to keep me around as her emasculated sub & I am quite happy with that.

I wouldn't go for a chastity cage or anything like that though.

[elina]

I wouldn't go for a chastity cage or anything like that though.

And what if your GF decides this is the next step in your emasculation?
Would you accept that?
Your GF seems to have quite clear ideas about how to keep you under Her spell.

Sincerely
elina

[Kirsty]

During the last 3 years, my wife allowed my little clit into her pussy once. She was very disappointed, and so was I ...despite my best efforts.

She enjoys my lips, mouth and tongue for her pleasure (with me). That is mostly how I get to please her. Most often, when she wants to have sex with me, she just mounts my face (like any alpha woman would do).

So it's not a question, "would you"? But rather a statement, "we do practice permanent denial" ...and we're both happy, active, in love, and have been together for many years as a couple: a hot-blooded female + sissified, gender-fluid "male".

Kirsty

[Loserpaul]

And what if your GF decides this is the next step in your emasculation?
Would you accept that?
Your GF seems to have quite clear ideas about how to keep you under Her spell.

That isn't the direction in which she is going. If anything she is keen to encourage me to masturbate more and watch more gay porn. Before covid she was saying that she would have to find me a macho gay top for me to have sex with. I think she wanted to take me out to a gay bar for that purpose but covid has put a brake on that idea. So I am fairly sure that is the "next step" once things get back to "normal".

[ucaneffher]

And what if your GF decides this is the next step in your emasculation?
Would you accept that?
Your GF seems to have quite clear ideas about how to keep you under Her spell.

That isn't the direction in which she is going. If anything she is keen to encourage me to masturbate more and watch more gay porn. Before covid she was saying that she would have to find me a macho gay top for me to have sex with. I think she wanted to take me out to a gay bar for that purpose but covid has put a brake on that idea. So I am fairly sure that is the "next step" once things get back to "normal".

Okay so is she making you gay or were you already gay before she initiated?

[Loserpaul]

Okay so is she making you gay or were you already gay before she initiated?

I have always been bi. I think she wants to make me fully gay or, at least, more gay than I am.

[ucaneffher]

Ah okay, if you’re open to it then go for it. I feel that it would’ve been different if she took you from a fully straight man and never curious or bi ans converted you all the way. If that was the case then I’d be asking for pictures of this woman to see what she looks like to have that sort of power lol

[Bnc63]

My wife and I have started down the path of permanent denial. It was at my request for brutal honesty with regard to me sexually satisfying her. It was difficult for her to embrace the idea of brutal honesty but after years of her dipping her toe in the water making fun of my little fella and my positive reaction to her comments that she has fully immersed herself in the concept.

I’m barely 3” when hard and there have been times when i’ve Cum before actual penetration occurred. Her ex was 8x7 with stamina. So as you can see a drastic change from what she was used to over a period of 10 years.

So on September 8th of this year she no longer accepts me into her mouth or delicious pussy. It’s been the longest I’ve been without being inside a woman in 42 years. The trajectory our relationship is on is VERY exciting to both of us. She will soon be on the prowl to find a long term sexual replacement for me as she is sooo deserving of having that side of her completely fulfilled.

I’m guessing there will be people with words of caution but rest assured we’ve been together for sooo many years and fit perfectly together in every way but one. We hope to find the rare man to fill the one void in her life and make her complete after not being so over the last 30 years.

That concludes my thoughts this morning. Thanks to all that read my ramblings and share successes they’ve had on a similar path!

[4herpleasure89]

To each their own but I maintain that this type of arrangement is not healthy or sustainable for a marriage. For most I believe this is conceived first in the mind of a man who is no longer attracted to his wife, not the other way around. I am fully attracted to my wife of 33 years and we both make sure to foster that attraction even though other men bring a more exciting sexual experience. The jealousy I feel motivates me to be the best version of myself and to give her no reason to ever consider leaving me. She assures me regularly that this would never happen because she loves me on a level no other man can ever approach. Part of that love still involves our sexual connection which is a vital component.

[Christinebitg]

I’m guessing there will be people with words of caution but rest assured we’ve been together for sooo many years and fit perfectly together in every way but one.

There will always be people telling you that "You're doing it wrong!"

Whether it's cuckolding, or PIV sex, or remodeling your bathroom.

[slsmike]

It wasn't so much a "deal" as it was an evolution. My woman wants and needs more than I can provide and since I am faithful to her, it was just how it evolved. I have been celibate over a year now. I am only allowed to cum by masturbation on her orders, I must consume every ejaculation, I am allowed to lick her pussy and clean her when I am told to watch her with her bull or lover, and that is it. I don't even get to kiss her with tongue.

We are together 3 years and it took awhile to fully evolve. I wouldn't trade it for the world.

[R_H_NC]

To each their own but I maintain that this type of arrangement is not healthy or sustainable for a marriage. For most I believe this is conceived first in the mind of a man who is no longer attracted to his wife, not the other way around. I am fully attracted to my wife of 33 years and we both make sure to foster that attraction even though other men bring a more exciting sexual experience. The jealousy I feel motivates me to be the best version of myself and to give her no reason to ever consider leaving me. She assures me regularly that this would never happen because she loves me on a level no other man can ever approach. Part of that love still involves our sexual connection which is a vital component.

Interesting thoughts. Thanks for sharing.

I’m guessing there will be people with words of caution but rest assured we’ve been together for sooo many years and fit perfectly together in every way but one.

There will always be people telling you that "You're doing it wrong!"

Whether it's cuckolding, or PIV sex, or remodeling your bathroom.

‘Remodeling your bathroom’…………classic !

[Dirk the cuckold]

We don't have a verbal deal. It's just the way it is. Before other men started fucking her sex wasn't very good between us.. it became clear to us pretty early that I couldn't satisfy her. Now after almost 7 years of her having sex with men who I can't compete with it's pretty much an unspoken rule that we don't have sex. I think if I tried I would probably be so self conscious that I couldn't even get an erection. I do have a hall pass.. But I'll never use it. I would be too worried that I couldn't preform.

[LawyerWouldbeCuckold]

To each their own but I maintain that this type of arrangement is not healthy or sustainable for a marriage. For most I believe this is conceived first in the mind of a man who is no longer attracted to his wife, not the other way around. I am fully attracted to my wife of 33 years and we both make sure to foster that attraction even though other men bring a more exciting sexual experience. The jealousy I feel motivates me to be the best version of myself and to give her no reason to ever consider leaving me. She assures me regularly that this would never happen because she loves me on a level no other man can ever approach. Part of that love still involves our sexual connection which is a vital component.

I fully agree, even though I've never been married, much less been a part of this lifestyle. And I suppose there might be things that keep a marriage together (shared values, children, a number of years or decades together, shared memories and experiences over the course of years or decades, a deep and loving friendship, and no desire to go back on the hunt for single people), but I think anything taken to an extreme cannot be healthy. Over the course of years of being denied sex, it's not hard for me to envision a situation where 1) the wife loses all respect for her husband, 2) the husband loses respect for the wife, and given that they have detached physically, then, eventually, they detach emotionally. On paper, they might be husband and wife, but in reality they are simply friends/roommates of the opposite gender.

I suppose I can see a situation like this working, say, if the husband is permanently unable to achieve an erection, either due to ED, age, or both, and his wife still wants to keep going. But other than that, I can't help but see such an arrangement either healthy or sustainable for a marriage.

But then again, I suppose some marriages do transition to situations where they are "Friends/roommates of the opposite gender". And the couple is so used to each other, so familiar with each other, and so set in their ways of being with each other, that they are okay with such a transition.

But unless I was permanently unable to achieve an erection, I could not accept a situation like that. If I ever do get married, and if my wife ever tells me that her V-J-J is off limits, I'd be like, "Okay, it's time to for us to each to go get a lawyer." But that's just me.

[Connecticut_couple]

I fully agree, even though I've never been married, much less been a part of this lifestyle. And I suppose there might be things that keep a marriage together (shared values, children, a number of years or decades together, shared memories and experiences over the course of years or decades, a deep and loving friendship, and no desire to go back on the hunt for single people), but I think anything taken to an extreme cannot be healthy. Over the course of years of being denied sex, it's not hard for me to envision a situation where 1) the wife loses all respect for her husband, 2) the husband loses respect for the wife, and given that they have detached physically, then, eventually, they detach emotionally. On paper, they might be husband and wife, but in reality they are simply friends/roommates of the opposite gender.

If you don't mind, help me understand why you follow and post on this forum if you don't seem to be involved in the lifestyle even in part, paraphrasing the first line in your comment. It seems to make things clearer to me though why you don't seem to understand why the majority of people in this community feel and act differently than you. Maybe there is a forum elsewhere that you might feel more of an affinity to. I can say from my own experience, and I'm sure many other would agree, things evolve over time with our spouses in many different directions, sexually and otherwise. I'm not sure if you have a committed partner but you stated you aren't married. If you do have a long term partner, you might have experienced changes over time. If you don't have a long term partner, and maybe never had one, I can see even more why you continue to have trouble envisioning things related to this lifestyle.

[LawyerWouldbeCuckold]

I fully agree, even though I've never been married, much less been a part of this lifestyle. And I suppose there might be things that keep a marriage together (shared values, children, a number of years or decades together, shared memories and experiences over the course of years or decades, a deep and loving friendship, and no desire to go back on the hunt for single people), but I think anything taken to an extreme cannot be healthy. Over the course of years of being denied sex, it's not hard for me to envision a situation where 1) the wife loses all respect for her husband, 2) the husband loses respect for the wife, and given that they have detached physically, then, eventually, they detach emotionally. On paper, they might be husband and wife, but in reality they are simply friends/roommates of the opposite gender.

If you don't mind, help me understand why you follow and post on this forum if you don't seem to be involved in the lifestyle even in part, paraphrasing the first line in your comment. It seems to make things clearer to me though why you don't seem to understand why the majority of people in this community feel and act differently than you. Maybe there is a forum elsewhere that you might feel more of an affinity to. I can say from my own experience, and I'm sure many other would agree, things evolve over time with our spouses in many different directions, sexually and otherwise. I'm not sure if you have a committed partner but you stated you aren't married. If you do have a long term partner, you might have experienced changes over time. If you don't have a long term partner, and maybe never had one, I can see even more why you continue to have trouble envisioning things related to this lifestyle.

I follow and post on this forum because I have been interested in this lifestyle for many, many years. I do have a committed partner; and at one point, we discussed this sort of lifestyle, and she indicated she had experience with it previously. But as I got to know her more, it seemed like her experiences were more threesomes with two other men as opposed to cuckoldry. As I have gotten to know her better, I've gotten the feeling that she would not be "wired" for this lifestyle. It's nothing she has said or done specifically; it's just more a feeling than anything else.

You have a very valid observation when you indicate "If you don't have a long term partner, and maybe never had one, I can see even more why you continue to have trouble envisioning things related to this lifestyle", and your point about "things evolve over time with our spouses in many different directions, sexually and otherwise", is, from the point of someone who is married like yourself, even more valid and valuable. Another reason I follow and post on this forum is that I've learned a great, great deal from the other people who post here, and I consider that knowledge invaluable.

And just as there are infinite shades of gray, there are probably infinite combinations of a marriage/marital relationship.

Nevertheless, I still agree with a previously poster who indicated that such a relationship, (permanently denied sex) is not healthy or sustainable for a marriage. JMHO.......

[LawyerWouldbeCuckold]

I fully agree, even though I've never been married, much less been a part of this lifestyle. And I suppose there might be things that keep a marriage together (shared values, children, a number of years or decades together, shared memories and experiences over the course of years or decades, a deep and loving friendship, and no desire to go back on the hunt for single people), but I think anything taken to an extreme cannot be healthy. Over the course of years of being denied sex, it's not hard for me to envision a situation where 1) the wife loses all respect for her husband, 2) the husband loses respect for the wife, and given that they have detached physically, then, eventually, they detach emotionally. On paper, they might be husband and wife, but in reality they are simply friends/roommates of the opposite gender.

If you don't mind, help me understand why you follow and post on this forum if you don't seem to be involved in the lifestyle even in part, paraphrasing the first line in your comment. It seems to make things clearer to me though why you don't seem to understand why the majority of people in this community feel and act differently than you. Maybe there is a forum elsewhere that you might feel more of an affinity to. I can say from my own experience, and I'm sure many other would agree, things evolve over time with our spouses in many different directions, sexually and otherwise. I'm not sure if you have a committed partner but you stated you aren't married. If you do have a long term partner, you might have experienced changes over time. If you don't have a long term partner, and maybe never had one, I can see even more why you continue to have trouble envisioning things related to this lifestyle.

Oh, and one other reason I follow and post on here.....some people have indicated to me, both in these forums and privately, that I have given them a tremendous amount of assistance with some of my advice and observations.

I truly get off on helping people, so I do enjoy that part of it.

Don't get me wrong- the majority of us lawyers are scum-sucking bastards who won't help our own grandmothers unless we can bill for it, but there are a few of us diamonds in the rough, so to speak......

[elina]

Oh, and one other reason I follow and post on here.....some people have indicated to me, both in these forums and privately, that I have given them a tremendous amount of assistance with some of my advice and observations.

I truly get off on helping people, so I do enjoy that part of it.

Don't get me wrong- the majority of us lawyers are scum-sucking bastards who won't help our own grandmothers unless we can bill for it, but there are a few of us diamonds in the rough, so to speak......

With all due respect;

Have you also considered that you may have driven others to frustration and made them leave the forum or stop posting with what many of us perceives as highly opinionated statements?

You will in many cases not get any feedback in these situations. Are you able to enterain the idea that there might potentially be many more individuals in this second cathegory.

Sincerely
elina

[4herpleasure89]

I think there are plenty of cuckolds and cuckold wannabes who see caution when it comes to some more extreme elements of Cuckoldry. And while we don’t wish to rain on anyones parade, have you considered that bad advice here has also led some to lose their marriage? This thread was framed to get opinions so it seems that either viewpoint has the right to express themselves. If someone gets frustrated but saves a good marriage, I would consider that to be a positive outcome. No doubt some people seem to be happy and thrive on extreme denial, humiliation and feminization. But are those the majority here? I’m not sure. Are they the majority in the real world? Not in my experience.

[R_H_NC]

Oh, and one other reason I follow and post on here.....some people have indicated to me, both in these forums and privately, that I have given them a tremendous amount of assistance with some of my advice and observations.

I truly get off on helping people, so I do enjoy that part of it.

Don't get me wrong- the majority of us lawyers are scum-sucking bastards who won't help our own grandmothers unless we can bill for it, but there are a few of us diamonds in the rough, so to speak......

With all due respect;

Have you also considered that you may have driven others to frustration and made them leave the forum or stop posting with what many of us perceives as highly opinionated statements?

You will in many cases not get any feedback in these situations. Are you able to enterain the idea that there might potentially be many more individuals in this second cathegory.

Sincerely
elina

LWBC seems a reasonably intelligent (and reasonable) man so I am pretty sure he has considered both of the options you describe.

Are you able to entertain that your postings are at times extremely embedded in the lifestyle, reflecting that extremity and that you possibly view everything here with those blinders on, unable or unwilling to see or consider any opinion which is contrary to this narrow viewpoint?

Just another opinion.

[LawyerWouldbeCuckold]

Oh, and one other reason I follow and post on here.....some people have indicated to me, both in these forums and privately, that I have given them a tremendous amount of assistance with some of my advice and observations.

I truly get off on helping people, so I do enjoy that part of it.

Don't get me wrong- the majority of us lawyers are scum-sucking bastards who won't help our own grandmothers unless we can bill for it, but there are a few of us diamonds in the rough, so to speak......

With all due respect;

Have you also considered that you may have driven others to frustration and made them leave the forum or stop posting with what many of us perceives as highly opinionated statements?

You will in many cases not get any feedback in these situations. Are you able to enterain the idea that there might potentially be many more individuals in this second cathegory.

Sincerely
elina

LWBC seems a reasonably intelligent (and reasonable) man so I am pretty sure he has considered both of the options you describe.

Are you able to entertain that your postings are at times extremely embedded in the lifestyle, reflecting that extremity and that you possibly view everything here with those blinders on, unable or unwilling to see or consider any opinion which is contrary to this narrow viewpoint?

Just another opinion.

I appreciate the compliment.

[LawyerWouldbeCuckold]

Oh, and one other reason I follow and post on here.....some people have indicated to me, both in these forums and privately, that I have given them a tremendous amount of assistance with some of my advice and observations.

I truly get off on helping people, so I do enjoy that part of it.

Don't get me wrong- the majority of us lawyers are scum-sucking bastards who won't help our own grandmothers unless we can bill for it, but there are a few of us diamonds in the rough, so to speak......

With all due respect;

Have you also considered that you may have driven others to frustration and made them leave the forum or stop posting with what many of us perceives as highly opinionated statements?

You will in many cases not get any feedback in these situations. Are you able to enterain the idea that there might potentially be many more individuals in this second cathegory.

Sincerely
elina

Elina, I frankly have not considered that I "may have driven others to frustration and made them leave the forum or stop posting with what many of us perceives as highly opinionated statements?" While I am indeed opinionated, I do not try to be judgmental of others. One thing that I have realized about this lifestyle is that there are endless combinations, and each couple must find what works for them.

But I do wonder about some of the more extreme actions/decisions that some couples make. Are they in fact healthy and sustainable for the marriage over the long-term? That's what one poster stated, and I think it's a reasonable question to raise.

[ipzi]

We only started talking and planning, deciding the best course of action to avoid any risk to her safety and unnecessary exposure (our friends and families don't need to know). We didn't do it yet. However, since we started talking, our sex life improved tremendously. Sex is more intense and more frequent than ever. Maybe I would accept a little denial as part of a game to make me more aroused. But permanent denial is something I would not accept. It would be too close to indifference for me. She says she will fuck other guys, but she will always come back to me. I tell her to be careful not to get her pussy too sore, because when she gets home I will fuck her like crazy.