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Re: New marital developments

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 9:46 am
by Wantsomefunto
Tacoma
I think a gentle nudge of saying maybe just agree to have lunch with him might help ease her worries and get her moving to doing more

Re: New marital developments

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2024 5:12 am
by elina
Thanks Tacoma,

I am glad to hear you are prepared to support Her.
I also think Wantsomefunto is on the right track.
The challenge is to nudge just so much that She can feel your love and willingness to do anything for Her to enjoy Herself, but not so much that She feels you are trying to take hold of Her steering wheel.

Sincerely
elina

Re: New marital developments

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2024 8:18 am
by Shiphead
Tacoma,
Someone asked earlier how often she brings up Joe's name first? More or less out of the blue? If so, does it only come up when you two are feeling frisky or at any time throughout the day when she's doing regular things at home?
Telling two friends is a huge step. It's on her mind and is looking for confirmation from someone she trusts. Zaylee then bringing it up to you immediately the next time you see her, is a big sign of your wife's interest. Zaylee is trying to get confirmation for your wife? Having 2 more witnesses that you are ok with the situation. Your wife is checking that she isn't reading the situation wrong. IMHO
Still so damn hot. I think this is some of the best time in this LS. Watching her change to considering doing it. You both benefit by increased bedroom action and you both have scenarios running through your minds and can take the fantasy wherever you want. It would be awesome if you can get her to tell you her Joe fantasy when you have a few drinks in her and she is really horny.

Re: New marital developments

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2024 5:31 pm
by BallSpanking
It would greatly allay her apprehensions if she knew you are supportive of her ... 'interests'. 🙂

Re: New marital developments

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 7:45 am
by Tacoma75
I usually bring him up, always in a fun way, never serious. Last thing I want to do is scare her off or make her concerned. I’d say his name comes up at least once a week and probably more. I find I have a hard time actively encouraging her to see him. I did literally tell her once that I’m fine with “whatever she wants to do” which does seem to me to cover a lot of ground if you know what I mean. I do also ask on a regular basis if she plans to go out with him, which 1) serves as implied permission and maybe even encouragement, and 2) feels very naughty (in a good way) and I suspect she shares that feeling as well.

The biggest thing is we’re both having fun with this so I want to take utmost care it continues. While it is exciting to think about her going out with him, it’s also a little scary.

Just this week she has several times pulled out her phone in bed before going to sleep to send a text. Something that normally doesn’t happen. Now I’m wondering if she was messaging him and I am going to ask directly next time she does it, and have some fun with it either way. May seem like nothing big but it’s like pure excitement to me.

Re: New marital developments

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 8:02 am
by BallSpanking
I find this quite interesting, and you are probably well advised to keep the HotWife topic completely tacit. Your knowledge and implied consent, serve as a form of encouragement, especially if she understands 'naughtiness' is allowed, and you share her excitement vicariously.
As to her unusual bedtime texting, it could be nothing, but I have always trusted my gut ... When red flags start to appear, there is often good reason for them. Then again, these are behaviors you hope will only grow, right?

Re: New marital developments

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 11:52 am
by Shiphead
Be straight with her. Ask if Joe is still interested in your Sexy wife.Tell her that it makes you really hot thinking that a young guy finds her so attractive that he won't give up trying to see her. If you are hard, put her hand on it and say this is what it does when you think about him flirting with her. ( Dont mention anything further about a date or sleeping with him) keep it comfortable to know her flirting is amazing and makes you realize you need to step your game up and appreciate her more to keep up with the many guys and especially young guys who are after her.
If she is still texting ask if you can see them cause it turns you on. Doesn't make you mad.. Then start stepping up your game. Buy her lingerie, little gifts or just a card more often. Compose a poem and send it in a card. Send flowers with no name attached. Tell florist not to give it away who sent them.
Then quickly tell us what happens.
Everyone feels better when others find them attractive. Tell her how you have noticed changes in her ie way she dresses, increased sex drive, better sex, happier, whatever. She gives me a hard on and I don't even know what she looks like. Enjoy the great communication and increased excitement you feel. Just put yourself in her position and think what it would be like to be chased by a beautiful 20 something women. And your wife likes it and wants you to text, flirt, call and even fuck her.

Re: New marital developments

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 8:55 pm
by BallSpanking
It seems Tacoma's entire approach is by implied consent. Speaking of it openly at this point could quash her delicate budding interest. I think he knows quite well how to communicate with his wife, and his cautious approach is evidence of that.

Re: New marital developments

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 6:54 am
by Tacoma75
BallSpanking wrote: ↑
Fri Apr 26, 2024 8:02 am
I find this quite interesting, and you are probably well advised to keep the HotWife topic completely tacit. Your knowledge and implied consent, serve as a form of encouragement, especially if she understands 'naughtiness' is allowed, and you share her excitement vicariously.
As to her unusual bedtime texting, it could be nothing, but I have always trusted my gut ... When red flags start to appear, there is often good reason for them. Then again, these are behaviors you hope will only grow, right?
As far as behaviors growing, that’s where there is some uncertainty. I’m thrilled for her that she’s enjoying his attention, but if things were to really start escalating I’d also be a little scared. So my plan is to just enjoy the fun and see where it goes in time.

Having said that I have noticed her confidence and comfort levels with things have gone up substantially in the last week or so. After our dinner with friends and her showing me her phone she now appears 100% comfortable with things. She casually announced last night that he wanted to call again sometime and I told her that’s great and she should do it.

Re: New marital developments

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 7:51 am
by Shiphead
BallSpanking wrote: ↑
Fri Apr 26, 2024 8:55 pm
It seems Tacoma's entire approach is by implied consent. Speaking of it openly at this point could quash her delicate budding interest. I think he knows quite well how to communicate with his wife, and his cautious approach is evidence of that.
It isn't implied consent. They have talked very directly and discuss the situation the entire time. The only thing that Tacoma was questioning is the texting in bed. If he knows, then why are you telling me what he should do? Direct your comments and questions to him and don't worry about my comments. Anyone can post a comment or suggestion to him at any time. He can chose to read, ignore or answer anything about our suggestions or questions that he cares too. You don't have any more of an idea of his future actions than I do, Zoltar!

Re: New marital developments

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 10:22 am
by BallSpanking
Thank you for your explanation of what you think is happening with the OP.

Re: New marital developments

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 10:37 am
by Shiphead
Back atcha.

Re: New marital developments

Posted: Sat May 18, 2024 8:29 am
by Tacoma75
Update on our saga. Joe called Betsy a few weeks ago after dinner. I was working outside in the yard but we had talked about it and she had full permission to take the call. When she told me about it later I was immediately happy and told her I was glad she talked to him, reiterating that I was very happy she was enjoying the attention. When she asked if I was jealous I told her not at all, which is 99% true :p. I asked if he was flirty and she said he was. Then I asked if she flirted back and she said not really and that she wasn't sure she should be doing that. I told her she should try it if she was in the mood, not wanting to push her. Since then he has been calling about twice a week. This past Monday she said he was going to call and that if she was going to try some light flirting with him, she wanted me in the room, which I quickly agreed to, trying to hide my excitement as best I could.

He called around 9, she was sitting on the bed with her knees up looking at her laptop, and I was sitting on the other side while I sat next to her looking at my phone. It was a little awkward before and during the call, probably for the both of us. He called and they began talking mostly about what they did that day. I could hear him at a low volume as they spoke. He asked "where's your husband" and she told him downstairs. I guess I shouldn't have been surprised but was when he asked what she was wearing. She told him panties and a t-shirt, which was a lie since she had on yoga pants, a long sleeve shirt and socks. I looked at her with a smile but she kept her eyes on her laptop as she held the phone to her ear. I of course started to get aroused and a second later when he asked what color were the panties and she said pink, I got almost fully hard. He said he bet she looked amazing in them, then added that if she was with him he'd be quick to slide them down and off of her. Almost as a reflex, without thinking I took her hand from the laptop and put it on the crotch of my pants. To my surprise she quickly ended the call, telling him she had to go because "my husband is coming". Some amazing sex ensued and that was that.

He texted all week. First trying to flirt with her in text and when that didn't really pick up, asking her to set some time aside alone so they could have phone sex. She said she would try, checking with me first of course, and they picked last night when I'd be "out with friends". Long story short they had phone sex with her using a headset. We agreed beforehand to fool around as she was talking to him and it went amazing. I couldn't hear him at all which was fine, but boy did she deliver some hot lines to him. She gave me a handjob and I came quick. Then I started fingering her while they talked and moved down the bed to eat her out as she told him she wanted to suck his dick and at the end that he could cum in her pussy. She was clearly very into it. I found this incredibly hot even though I had already finished. She ended the call quick after he came. The plot twist is that she didn't cum during the call. Instead she quickly got up to get some toys and got herself off twice, both times loud and intensely. More to come I'm sure.

Re: New marital developments

Posted: Sat May 18, 2024 8:53 am
by vicg
Wow, that's quite a development! This is going somewhere!

Re: New marital developments

Posted: Sat May 18, 2024 9:18 am
by Shiphead
I know it's already progessed beyond this point but I just had a thought that can prolong the sexual high you and Betsy are living. (Keep in mind my experience with the lifestyle was years ago and brief, so my ideas are likely dated)

It may have been easier to tell her to go out on a date with him and make him work for it. Have him pay for a couple of dates so she could enjoy being chased and wanted again. Some dinner dates and any activity like dancing or even bowling, where he could make a little headway by kissing her and getting his hand under her shirt. She could control how far she would let him go each time. Take it in steps to prolong the excitement for you both. He would be living with a hard on and she would have him in the palm of her hand. The texting and calls could continue. After each date, she could come home and share the joy of dating and also allow her to become more comfortable with him. Remember, men reach their sexual peak around 21. Women about 40.
Just giving it up easily is taking away a lot of hot sex you two could share after each date. Most everyone agrees it is the journey that should be enjoyed. Not just the destination. Paraphrased, someone in another post said this is like being a virgin again and the excitement of her first time all over again.
You can enjoy the angst of hearing how he is making progress with her. Remember the first time you got her shirt off, probably in the car and got her nipples in your mouth? Then she stops you and says she has to go. So he excitedly waits for the next time. Talk about some hot text and calls she would receive and share with you. I know this is the age of the internet, swiping left and booty calls. But sometimes us older people knew what we were doing and made the excitement last.
Ok boomer. My age is showing but those small steps are still etched in whats left of my memory.
At 16 yrs old, my girlfriend,s parents had a talk with me because my cock was hard as a rock and clearly visible extending down the leg of my tight jeans. I tried to keep one hand in my pocket to hold it down to try to hide it. I think the limp from keeping my leg straight to keep from bending and strangling my cock gave me away.

Re: New marital developments

Posted: Sat May 18, 2024 11:19 am
by elina
Dear Tacoma,

Wonderful to hear how Betsy was warming up at that point a few weeks ago.

This of course really makes us wonder what has happened in the time since the event you described here.
I hope you have kept up on serving your WIfe's pussy and allowing Her to use Her toys; or has She already gone on a date with Joe?

Sincerely
elina

Re: New marital developments

Posted: Sat May 18, 2024 11:38 am
by Rogueuser1
Wow that is hot - love the development so far and I am glad you are both enjoying this so much! Hopefully it keeps up and she has a great time.

Re: New marital developments

Posted: Sat May 18, 2024 11:54 am
by realcucklife
The journey is up to speed now!

Re: New marital developments

Posted: Sun May 26, 2024 9:28 am
by Tacoma75
@elina, sine they had phonesex last week he has been in contact quite frequently. He has been calling her as she drives home from work and if I’m home when she gets here, she will end the call. If not, she will keep talking to him.

We’ve talked multiple times about how aroused I was listening to her talk dirty to him, both times initiated by her. I took the leap and admitted that I’ve been fantasizing about the two of them together and she confessed she has too.

When I asked if she wanted to meet him, she only said she wasn’t sure if she should because although she would try, she didn’t know if she’d be able to be a good girl in his company. I told her that I was ready to support her fully if she wanted to go the non-good girl route, and she answered by saying that’s what her best friend Zaylee said as well.

It seems like things are lining up for her to go out with him but we will see. She also said she wants to have phone sex with him again sometime but asked if I minded if she does it alone without me in the room this time. I told her absolutely.

Re: New marital developments

Posted: Mon May 27, 2024 1:19 am
by elina
Thanks Tacoma

Yes, looks like your patience is about to pay off.

Just remember to keep demonstrating how much you love Her and supporting every suggestion she makes.

Maybe also encouraging Her to keep sharing with Zaylee?
Do you ever talk to Zaylee? Would it be weird for you to call Zaylee and tell How happy you are for your wife now potentially getting a lover?

Sincerely
elina

Re: New marital developments

Posted: Mon May 27, 2024 10:35 am
by bbarnsworth
Tacoma, congratulations :) Your wife has already crossed the bridge. Particulars to follow, and actually having sex as well, but mentally...she's there and ready.

Obviously this is highly erotic for you. I've read all your posts. Are you ready for it? Are you ready for your wife to have sex with this young man? For him to cum inside her? For her to make it clear you're not to be in the room when it happens? Open questions there.

Also, it would be a good idea for this guy to be aware that she isn't cheating, that she's doing this with the full support of her husband. For some guys, they don't like that. It could be this guy sees her as a target, and wants to get her away from you. I know your wife is devoted to you, but if this guy acts like that it could cause problems. There's danger here; he knows where your wife works and this is not anonymous. As sexy as this all is, an adult conversation is warranted with all three of you.

Re: New marital developments

Posted: Mon May 27, 2024 2:18 pm
by patw3268
Congrats Tacoma. Enjoy every step in this process because there is only one first time. I can’t wait to read your next update.

Re: New marital developments

Posted: Wed May 29, 2024 4:06 pm
by Bi_Giver
Wow, this must be exciting times for you both! I think it is a good idea to let Becky have phone sex with just the 2 of them, however as long as Becky is willing to talk about the experience and what they said to one another.
I would also tell it that it would be OK if she made plans to see Joe after they have phone sex.

Looking forward to reading more of your journey!

Re: New marital developments

Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2024 12:48 am
by sandy691196
Hi Tacoma..

This is a scintillating thread! Thanks for taking the time out to share the events with us in details.

My 2 bits as someone who has been down that path.
This is the time to directly bring in pleasure in your sex life as a couple, explicitly linking it to them having sex.

Tell her that your marital sex life is improving due to his doings and it will be foolish to NOT fully take advantage of it, as a couple.
Tell her that at your age, you need to maximise pleasure before it's too late. Ask her whether things are more erotic between the 2 of you due to his sexual overture. If the answer is "yes" then suggest that you 2 should have sex wjole explicitly fantasizing about him.

Last time they had phone sex, she hadn't cum due to your presence in the room. So she wants you out of the room this time. Encourage her to do that and suggest that she may have much better orgasms with a new, younger partner, albeit over phone. Say that you might masturbate too in.another room, fantasizing about them.
In a hotwife/training video I found the theory that it's essential for a couple to try out sexual pleasure (masterbation) in each other's absence, thinking of other men doing her. The delinking of organisms from each other, is an essential step.

After she has cum with him through phone sex and you have cum separately, have an explicit fantasy session together, where she thinks of him and you suck her off. If you can manage 2 sessions in the same evening, try to fuck her in round 2, while she describes the action or while you articulate the fantasy if she is too shy to do it.

I suggest you 2 go the "cheating" route in this experience. She should maintain the cheating wife narrative throughout so that thr fear of discovery acts as a control tool over him- in case he acts too cocky.
His chances of spilling the beans at her workplace is far less if there is a stern husband in the backdrop.
Telling him the truth about a "supporting husband" may have unforeseen results. He may take things for granted, at his age and single (presumably) status.
His outing the 2 of you as a cuckold couple, at her workplace, is far more problematic than his trying to reveal a simple "cheating" episode.

Go for it mate!

Re: New marital developments

Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2024 12:52 am
by sandy691196
Hi Tacoma..

This is a scintillating thread! Thanks for taking the time out to share the events with us in details.

My 2 bits as someone who has been down that path.
This is the time to directly bring in pleasure in your sex life as a couple, explicitly linking it to them having sex.

Tell her that your marital sex life is improving due to his doings and it will be foolish to NOT fully take advantage of it, as a couple.
Tell her that at your age, you need to maximise pleasure before it's too late. Ask her whether things are more erotic between the 2 of you due to his sexual overtures. If the answer is "yes" then suggest that you 2 should have sex while explicitly fantasizing about him.

Last time they had phone sex, she hadn't cum due to your presence in the room. So she wants you out of the room this time. Encourage her to do that and suggest that she may have much better orgasms with a new, younger partner, albeit over phone. Say that you might masturbate too, in another room, fantasizing about them.
In a hotwife/training video I found the theory that it's essential for a couple to try out sexual pleasure (masturbation) in each other's absence, thinking of other men doing her. The delinking of orgasms from each other, is an essential step.

After she has cum with him through phone sex and you have cum separately, have an explicit fantasy session together, where she thinks of him and you suck her off. If you can manage 2 sessions in the same evening, try to fuck her in round 2, while she describes the action or while you articulate the fantasy if she is too shy to do it.

I suggest you 2 go the "cheating" route in this experience. She should maintain the cheating wife narrative throughout so that the fear of discovery acts as a control tool over him- in case he acts too cocky.
His chances of spilling the beans at her workplace is far less if there is a stern husband in the backdrop.
Telling him the truth about a "supporting husband" may have unforeseen results. He may take things for granted, at his age and single (presumably) status.
His outing the 2 of you as a cuckold couple, at her workplace, is far more problematic than his trying to reveal a simple "cheating" episode. Her colleagues lnow he had been acting fresh. They won't believe him!

Go for it mate!