Pillow talk about past lover

[snoogaloo82]

Hi rodturn,

Thank you. I appreciate it.

I had never met a woman like my wife. We fucked the evening of our first date. I had never been with a woman who had her sexual confidence. I loved it and still so. After we got naked, our first sex act was her giving me the best blowjob I ever had. Her sexual experience was unbelievable. Her sexual experience captivated me. After she finished giving me head, she laid next to me face-to-face and with adorable confidence told me her favorite position was doggie. She had and calming and reassuring manner of getting me to open up and talk honestly about sex.

As we got to know each other, she assured me that sex was normal and natural. She loved everything about sex.

Since the evening of our first date through now, when my wife talks sex, I'll listen intently.

That's what I like about your wife Tank! You are both so open and honest with each other and you two share everything! Also you can feel free to talk about sex without any reprisal at all. That's a comfort that not many people have even living this lifestyle. You are to be commended for your openness and honesty, the both of you!!

[Tank Turner]

Hi snoogaloo82,

Thank you for your gracious compliment.

My wife and I have always been able to talk about anything, including sex, with complete honesty. Lying will destroy the best relationship.

My wife has girlfriends who are afraid to their their husbands the truth about their sexuality because they fear harsh judgment. My wife thinks that's immature and indicates unhealthy relationships. If a wife can't trust her husband, who can she trust?

[snoogaloo82]

Hi snoogaloo82,

Thank you for your gracious compliment.

My wife and I have always been able to talk about anything, including sex, with complete honesty. Lying will destroy the best relationship.

My wife has girlfriends who are afraid to their their husbands the truth about their sexuality because they fear harsh judgment. My wife thinks that's immature and indicates unhealthy relationships. If a wife can't trust her husband, who can she trust?

My thoughts exactly. If one can't trust their spouse who can they really trust? That should be the closes bond in the world!!

[Caribwaters]

I was the only guy in my wife's life prior to us getting married. We met as young teenagers in high school and there was never a serious boy involved with her during those year. So she had no sexual history, other than a few kisses at early dances. She was a true Catholic school virgin when we dated.

Her sexual experience began to expand when she took her first lover after we were married 7 years. He was married and significantly older and had been with quite a few woman. As a result she began to realize the scope of satisfaction that she had been missing out with me sexually. We had a few serious sit down discussions after I discovered this affair, she has subsequently been completely open/forthright with me about the intimacy with her lovers.

An ego depressing side effect of her honesty, was learning how inadequate I still am in my efforts to try to satisfy her now expected level of sexual euphoria, discovered thru enjoyment with some of her lovers.

[rodturn]

Hey Caribwaters,
Always a few positives and negatives in watching your wife getting fucked......My opinion is I love to be able to watch my wife with her old boyfriend because I get to see what he did that really got her so wet.....some things I was not doing....just makes our sex even better....Now that my wife is more comfortable ( now that she knows I love seeing her having sex with another guy! ) she is putting it all out there....our pillow talk has gone way beyond just talking about the sex on the VHS tape......now.....she surprises me by talking about other " sex days"......how they would just hook up at lunch and fuck for the rest of the day and will share all the details......how she would lick his cock from the tip all the way down to his balls ....then she would suck his balls until he would come all over her face......telling how much she loved his cock and how much she loved the taste of his cum....Stan would grab her head from behind and just fuck her mouth.....slowly and deeply while she sucked his cock and cupped his balls....literally squeezing the cum out of his balls and using his cock like a straw to get every drop of his cum down her throat.....so erotic seeing her getting fucked so well.....deep.......slow.....obviously loving everything he was doing to her......not sure what the best part was but hearing how vocal she was when cumming on Stans cock was/is a huge turn on!.....Also at the top of the list is watching her licking his cock and loving it.....Funny thing......seeing her having such a good fuck...I realized we do a lot of the same things when we fuck which is really cool because I get to visualize Stan fucking her the same way which is really a turn on seeing and feeling her do the same things to me!.....gotta luv VHS!!

[rodturn]

Todays pillow talk......my wife asked me if I remembered when we first started to get together....of course I replied....( this was long before I discovered the VHS tape).....she told my today that there was an overlap in that first 3 weeks where she was dating both Stan and I....then she added...there was 3 or 4 times that Stan finished fucking me and then I went over to your place and you fucked me....long pause....you knew didn't you?......I said I knew you were extremely wet and wondered why you didn't let me go down on you as per our normal playtime....LOL....I thought her extra creaminess was just her being aroused for me ! ( hotwives will be rolling their eyes when they read this and be saying...typical man! LOL ! )...I would agree totally with that BUT....my beloved wife and the VHS tape has opened my eyes and my mind....I'm not as typical as I used to be!! Yea!
Sex was always fun but nothing like it is now!!

[rodturn]

Pillow talk from this morning ….one of the first times Stan and I fucked we started kissing in the front hall at my place …. Right here where we are right now…. I reached down and cupped that big bulge in his pants… I stroked his cock and chopped his balls…. Just like this…. Then I meltdown in front of him and I sucked him off… I pulled his pants down to his ankles so I could really go to town sucking his big hard throbbing cock ! I’d wrap one arm around his ass and hold him tight as I wrapped my lips tight around that great big hard throbbing cock… cupped his balls and told him to cum in my mouth….. he filled my mouth so much I had a bunch of cock juice dripping down my chin because I couldn’t swallow such a big load! I sucked every single drop of Stan’s cum…. This is how I sucked him off!!!

[Tank Turner]

Sex convos or pillow talk are always erotic. However, I listen for educational opportunities.

My wife has no desire to fuck any of her boyfriends she dated before we met. She will talk about sex with her former boyfriends, but it was usually limited to augmenting a point she wanted to make.

I can vivly remember a convo my wife and I had about cum and women who hate men's cum. My wife has always loved men's cum because it indicated successful sex. She prided herself for always being able to work money shots out of men's cocks. For my wife, that was very important to her. That convo transitioned to what were probably cum fetishes and kinks. She told me that she loved the feel of warm cum on her tits. That went to guys who were turned on by watching her rub their cum into her tits and playing with it to guys who liked to cum on her body and admire it as though it had artistic appreciation. And that went to her explaining that as long as it wasn't degrading, if it turned on her former boyfriends, she submitted to their sexual requests. A few of her former boyfriends would pull out of her pussy and finish inside of her mouth. I think the points she was making was men's cum was the normal product of successful sex, and most men she dated enjoyed identical sex with variations in kinks.

When my wife talks sex, I'll listen intently to every word.

[rodturn]

Sex convos or pillow talk are always erotic. However, I listen for educational opportunities.

My wife has no desire to fuck any of her boyfriends she dated before we met. She will talk about sex with her former boyfriends, but it was usually limited to augmenting a point she wanted to make.

I can vivly remember a convo my wife and I had about cum and women who hate men's cum. My wife has always loved men's cum because it indicated successful sex. She prided herself for always being able to work money shots out of men's cocks. For my wife, that was very important to her. That convo transitioned to what were probably cum fetishes and kinks. She told me that she loved the feel of warm cum on her tits. That went to guys who were turned on by watching her rub their cum into her tits and playing with it to guys who liked to cum on her body and admire it as though it had artistic appreciation. And that went to her explaining that as long as it wasn't degrading, if it turned on her former boyfriends, she submitted to their sexual requests. A few of her former boyfriends would pull out of her pussy and finish inside of her mouth. I think the points she was making was men's cum was the normal product of successful sex, and most men she dated enjoyed identical sex with variations in kinks.

When my wife talks sex, I'll listen intently to every word.

Good morning Tank,
Couldn't agree more re " When my wife talks sex, I'll listen intently to every word.".....and that goes beyond just the erotic part of it....I, like you.like to learn as to what she like or doesn't like ( promotes more sex which is always a good thing right?)..I remember the first time when she said " Stan was sliding his big hard stiff cock in and out of me from behind....holding my hips tight....I could feel his cock throbbing in me and I knew he was going to cum and squirt his load deep into my pussy...he pushed in deep and then deeper still and i reached up between my legs and cupped his balls tight and squeezed the cum out of his balls into my pussy...he came so much I couldn't hold it all and I could feel his cum dripping out of me running down my legs"..........the VHS tape doesn't show Stans cum dripping out when he was fucking her from behind but there is another position that does show his cum dripping out.

[Tank Turner]

Hi rodturn,

And I completely agree with you.

As a general rule, when women talk sex with their husbands/boyfriends, it involves something important to them. Wise men will learn from their wives/girlfriends' sex talk. Dirty talk during sex is women voicing their sexual fantasies. Women's sexual fantasies are extremely important to them. That is not to infer that they want to experience their sexual fantasies, but it is wise to play on them for women's sexual pleasure.

I was enamored of my wife's sexual confidence the first time we had sex which was on the evening of our first date. After she gave me the best blowjob I ever had, she snuggled face-to-face next to me and told me her favorite position was doggie. I might have fallen in love with her then, I had never been with a woman who have her erotic sexual confidence.

After my wife cums until exhaustion, she wants to be fucked hard and rough doggie or a variate of doggie. She wants deep penetration. She is not a tender loving girl. She is before and after sex, but during she, she's all porn star. I think most women are. As you've written, most women want a thick cock of about 7" and they want it hard and rough. Women have told me that length beyond 7" does nothing for them, and they want thick cocks that stretch their pussies. My wife told me while we dated and many times since that she hated guys shoving their cocks down her throats. She knew that it was natural and biological instinct for guys to thrust forward when they came, but guys with longer cocks gagged her.

My wife loves men's cum. She always has. To her, it indicated successful sex and she was sexually desirable. She's always swallowed. When I dated her, she told me a blowjob wasn't a blowjob unless women swallowed. She has backed away from that belief. She still swallows, but she can see why women don't. She said some dudes' sum is plain awful.

The best way to learn how women love sex is to ask them. If women trust men, they'll tell them everything and anything. Break a woman's trust, especially about sex, and she'll never trust that dude again.

BTW, when a woman makes it a point to tell a man about sex she had with a former boyfriend, what she is really telling him is how she most loves sex. A wise dude will listen without judgment to every word she says and then do what she described.

[BBCfan]

Todays pillow talk......my wife asked me if I remembered when we first started to get together....of course I replied....( this was long before I discovered the VHS tape).....she told my today that there was an overlap in that first 3 weeks where she was dating both Stan and I....then she added...there was 3 or 4 times that Stan finished fucking me and then I went over to your place and you fucked me....long pause....you knew didn't you?......I said I knew you were extremely wet and wondered why you didn't let me go down on you as per our normal playtime....LOL....I thought her extra creaminess was just her being aroused for me ! ( hotwives will be rolling their eyes when they read this and be saying...typical man! LOL ! )...I would agree totally with that BUT....my beloved wife and the VHS tape has opened my eyes and my mind....I'm not as typical as I used to be!! Yea!
Sex was always fun but nothing like it is now!!

So she basically did cuck right from the start!

That must have been mind blowing to hear.
Wow!

[Tank Turner]

Always a few positives and negatives in watching your wife getting fucked......

There should be no negatives.

I knew my wife was extremely sexually experienced the first time I fucked her. She obviously got her experience from men who fucked her.

When we knew it would eventually happen, I used to visualized my wife fucking another dude. I visualized no negatives.

I knew what sex was. My wife told me about kinks her boyfriends had. None were degrading. My wife has never engaged in degrading sex. She never will. Everything she told me was normal sex. She considers anal sex normal sex.

As long as dudes know her parameters and do not go beyond them, there will be no negatives. So far, every dude who's done MFM sex with us stayed within normal sex parameters. In fact, she's had to encourage younger dudes to be more sexually aggressive with her. She has never enjoyed tender loving sex. She loves to be manhandled and fucked hard and rough like porn stars.

[rodturn]

Hey Tank…. Correct again …should be no negatives…… I was responding to caribwater who mentioned a negative to his ego… I … like you… don’t feel any negativity… quite the opposite… loved seeing my wife thoroughly enjoying a great fuck… she is enjoying the pillow talk…thanks Stan wherever you are for the gift that keeps on giving! Totally positive!!

[Caribwaters]

rodturn
In regards to "negativity" from conversations during pillow talk, I was referring to how I eventually learned how inadequate I was as a lover compared to 2 of her former lovers. The only way you can understand your short falls is thru complete honesty in conversations with your intimate partner (wife).

Her last lover, who she knew from high school, but only dated a couple of times, proved when they reconnected years later to be gifted with great sexual stamina. My wife referenced it, as "he could go all night". Also she had never been with any man who was so orally talented. There is no way I could compete with him in trying to satisfy her. (ego) She claims that she liked him, but never felt any feelings of love for him and the absence of that emotion in their relationship meant that he could never really possess her as I do. He was just a nice guy, usually fun to be with, who was outstanding in the bedroom, but sex is not love. Over the 20 years she was involved with him, she had the best of both worlds.

Her honesty during our many pillow talk secessions, I always knew he was a source of pleasure, but never a threat to our marriage

[rodturn]

Well said Caribwaters,
Sounds awesome to me….re the comment about negativity….
Things don’t always come out the way you mean them when texting
For me… there were those same kinds of feelings initially but it was such a turn on ( coupled along with the vhs tape) but I got over them quickly and view that as an enhancement to our relationship which sounds exactly where you are… I didn’t think of sex as a competitive activity but after seeing the vhs tape with my now wife getting a really good fucking on camera I knew I had to do some things better and some things different. With the vhs tape I could see what she really liked but hadn’t told me about
Of course now, during our pillow talk I get all ? The detail including details from a lot of her other fuck sessions with Stan which I listen to intently!

[Caribwaters]

rodturn

You are very fortunate to have a recorded photographic history of your wife and "Stan" in action.I never had the opportunity to be present or to even watch from afar or remotely. My wife is serious when she insists that her sexual encounters with her lovers are a private event and not a spectator sport.

I did once observe her giving full head to a good friend in the rear seat of our car one evening, but fortunately neither of them saw me standing there. It was an incredibly hot scene for me to witness, one that I can still vividly play back in my head. There was nothing of a "negative connotation" in our car that night. She has described in detail on number of occasions during pillow talk the events in the back seat of our car that evening, but have never told her I was a silent observer, knowing her feelings about being watched.

[rodturn]

Hey Caribwaters
That is a memory burned deep inside…. Forever…. Can be what you make it…..pillow talk last night my wife loved talking about one time after she and Stan had finished making out and they laid back in bed …my wife could feel his load of cum slowly dripping out of her pussy but she could see Stan was still a bit hard so she crawled up between Stan’s legs and looked up at him and said I think you have one more load in you and I’m going to suck your cock until you give it to me…. My wife loves to suck a man’s balls and I knew that was going to be the next part of the pillow talk….love that it was…. Not on the vhs so like you Caribwaters… it is something I go back to in my mind…. She told me she worked her way up between his legs that were spread wide and took his balls in her mouth….alternating from one to another while stroking his cock with her left hand…. after he was really stiff… thick… and hard she opened her mouth wide and wrapped her lips tight around his hard cock…. slowly sliding he mouth up and down his cock…. She could feel his cock start to throb as she sucked him off….he grabbed her head and started to fuck her mouth…. Her mouth slid all the way down the shaft of his cock right down to his balls….he couldn’t hold it and then started to squirts load deep into her throat…. This time she was ready and she took it all deep into her throat….
As much as I love the vhs this mental image always gets me over the line.

[rodturn]

More pillow talk this morning.....my wife woke me up in the best of all possibilities ....I awakened to the wonderful sensation of my cock fully in her mouth....she looked up at me with a mischievous smile and said..." I used to wake Stan up like this.....a lot actually......closest I ever came to squirting my load when still soft. This was not on the VHS and had not been part of our pillow talk.....all new......as Tank has pointed out in one of his replies....this is a moment when you just listen...my wife said....let me show you how I sucked him off...( instantly hard at this point which did not go unnoticed !!) she said..." I loved waking Stan up like this....I would take his cock deep into my mouth before he had any idea as to what was going on....never protested....loved having my lips around his cock....just like this.....my hands cupping his balls just like this....stroking his beautiful hard cock...just like this.....squeezing them hard.....then I would take my mouth off of his throbbing cock and take his huge swollen hairy balls into my mouth....just like this.....sucking them....going back and forth from one to the other....he moaned.....put his hands behind my head and held my head in place so I had to keep sucking him off.....I wrapped my lips tight around the shaft of his cock again and cupped his balls tightly and sucked that great big throbbing cock......I remembered the last time I sucked him off and how much cum he had so I was ready this time because I knew how much cum he was going to squirt into my throat and when he shot his load into my mouth this time I was ready and sucked every drop of his cum into my mouth....swallowed every drop......LOL.....I have pretty good stamina but not this morning....didn't last that long but did recover very quickly and was up to the task at hand.....great morning! We Involved Stan in the second session.

[rodturn]

lol….last post… I said we involved Stan in our next session….i went online earlier this year and bought a sex toy….. new to us….. never discussed and was very unsure how to introduce this dildo….the toy arrived in a plain box but my wife took delivery before I could say or do anything…. No way to introduce the toy with any subtleness….had no experience with toys nor did she and I had no idea how she would handle this….. nor did I realize how big the toy was and as well…… it was quite dark in colour….. holy crap…. I had some explaining to do!
Within a few hours my wife said “ let’s try this thing out…..learning curve!!!! I had no idea how to use this toy but learned fast and had fun learning!…use the toy a fair amount….. have named it “Stan”… another dimension to our sessions!!!!! I’m a fast learner and so is my wife !

[rodturn]

Re reading a few posts… one from Tank and from Caribwaters….wrote about really paying attention to what our wife is saying….so many good things come from that…
- I pick up on what turns her on
- I am able to enhance mental images from some
of her comments like :
- he held my head in both hands while he
Fucked my mouth
- I remembered how much he came in my
Mouth the last time I sucked him off
- I loved feeling him squirt his load into me
because I knew his cum was going to be dripping
Out of me and running down my legs
- I loved sucking his cock ! He had such a big
beautiful hard cock!
- my relationship with Stan was all about sex…
we both loved that.
- when I cupped that bulge in his pants and he
Got really hard…. I pulled his pants down to his
ankles and his big hard cock popped out of his
pants standing straight up… I cupped his balls….
I stroked his cock with my other hand and
Looked up at Stan and we both knew right away
That his cock was going into my mouth… I
Opened my mouth wide as I could and then
Took his throbbing cock into my mouth wrapping
My lips tight around his cock
Anyways…. From this pillow talk there are so many mental
images that are there to be enjoyed forever.
Amazing how many new things come out of pillow talk…. My job is to always be encouraging and supportive!!

[rodturn]

New story yesterday! Walking in a park yesterday… fairly secluded area and out of the blue my wife said..” I remember this area” this is where Stan and I fucked for the first time outside!
( I love the part where she said “ first time” as in not the only time!) ….” She followed up “ right over there up against that tree… I was really horny for him so I pushed him up against that tree and put my hand inside his pants and grabbed his cock… I undid his belt and then unzipped his pants so I could get better access to his balls… then I started to suck him off… he came in my mouth pretty quickly but I wasn’t done with him yet…. I faced that tree and bent over …. Pulled my dress up and told him to stick his big cock in me…. He fucked me really good right here”…. I said” this tree right here?…. She smiled and replied “ yes… this one”
And away we went… she gave me every detail!!! Best walk ever!

[Tank Turner]

My wife and I spent Christmas evening alone. She worked me with naught pillow talk about her sexual encounters of her youth. Before the first day of her freshman year of college, she knew how to get dudes to fuck her. What a girl wears will attract attention. She had that wired. Her seductive talk and suggestive body language ensnared dudes in sexual traces that they could not escape from until she let them. Staying naked kept dudes in her trance. She knew dudes loved to look at naked women. She had perfected using her naked body to cause dudes to crave her.

Her college party sex stories got me raging hard.

When I get time I'll write about her tying up a fraternity house bathroom while having sex with a guy she met maybe 15 minutes earlier. She knew that once she got naked she owned him.

[rodturn]

Hey Tank,
Looking forward to reading that story!

[rodturn]

A lot of our pillow talk has been about the vhs tape and although I have asked almost every session what turns her on ( her reply is always “ I love what you do”) so a while ago I took a chance and ordered a sex toy… it arrived and my wife asked what it was….gulp! … I had zero idea of what she would say or think …. Turned out great… 8 inches… very dark in colour… very thick. We test drove the new toy that same afternoon…. As much as my wife downplayed the new toy she cums very quickly with the toy ( named Stan … much to my delight!!)…. Has made the pillow talk more balanced and has opened up more hot discussions…

[rodturn]

My wife was married before, and he was her only sexual partner. Took us a few years of marriage, then we slowly got involved in swinging a bit. 1st, with couples, then, more mfm. Which was fine with me, as I'd had some experience in the LS in previous marriages. So, while we'll talk some about what we've experienced here or there, most of our 'pillow talk' I guess would be 'sex talk'?
The few mfm experiences that really 'rocked her boat' I enjoy bringing up while we're having sex. When I talk about her reaction to another man's cock (big mushroom head) entering her, or her going balls deep sucking him, or maybe the noises she made when he was 'hitting her spot' - well, it's obvious her reaction as she gets noticably wetter, and doesn't take long for her to cum. Love it how her thinking of another man fucking her sets her off...

My wife and I went to a concert in Vancouver this week and stayed overnight… she booked the hotel. On the way to the hotel she casually told me it was a hotel she and Stan stayed at and as a matter of a fact, she got the same room they had. Knowing this made it difficult at check in because I had to walk in in an obvious state of arousal ( much to her amusement!)
As soon as we got in the room she pushed me against the wall and knelt down in front of me…. Undid my pants and pulled my stiff cock out and before wrapping her lips around my cock she looked up at me and said “ this is exactly what I did to Stan when we walked into this room… I sucked him off…. Just like this… she knows how to give a blowjob… she take a cock right up to a guys balls and loves to lick and suck a guy’s balls… I loved watching her and she would tell me every detail of the blowjob she gave Stan right where we were standing describing how she would slide her mouth up and down the thick shaft of his cock all the way up to his balls while cupping his balls with one hand…adding….” Just like this”……the as my cock started to throb in her mouth she said “ when I was sucking Stand cock and I knew he was getting close I had to get ready because I remembered how much cum he had the last time he came in my mouth and I wanted to swallow every drop”…….that was the first reenactment of her time in that room with Stan but not the last!