Pillow talk about past lover

[Tire_Kicker]

Previously from page 3: One thing led to another and the next thing she knew they were tearing each others clothes off in the back seat of his car. She said it was fast and she didn't really remember a lot of it but he really was as big as he claimed to be and she must have been really horny because she was able to take it. He went bareback and by the time she realized it he had come inside her. In the first version she told me she realized her mistake immediately and grabbed her clothes and ran to the dorms. I had a feeling there was more but didn't want to push too hard. It came in time.

For probably the first time since we'd been together, we didn't talk on Sunday afternoon. I didn't think too much of it until I tried calling her during the week and felt like her room mate was covering for her. One week turned into two and I started to think our little fling had run its course. I was surprised to find out how much it hurt, I guess I fell for the girl harder than I thought. Then the phone rang. It was Frankie, apparently there had been a crazy series of events and she had just been so busy with her studies the time got away from her. Ok, got it, turns out she really wanted to see me and really wanted me to come up the next weekend. We immediately made plans and I was excited to resume the relationship.

I got off work early Friday and made the trek over the mountains getting there around 10:00 pm. I picked her up and we headed to the motel, it was pretty much business as usual, sex, conversation and fast food with a little more mention of her friend Falid (filthy rich Kuwaiti prince) than I cared for but I knew they were close. Something seemed a little off but mostly it was great. It seems Falid had been trying to talk her into being more than friends in spite of Frankie's insistence that she was already with someone (me). We spent Saturday together watching old movies and making love, two of our favorite past times. Saturday night we finally got a little sleep, I awoke to find her ready for another round and happily obliged. This is where things get interesting...

After our morning romp and breakfast she simply stated, "I think I'm going to sleep with Falid." Boom! I straight up didn't know what to say to that, remember, we agreed to an open relationship while she was at college. She went on to tell how supportive he'd been to her (more on that later) and that she felt bad about sending him home with blue balls every night. She would later tell me that she had already given him a blow job earlier that week but felt like she wanted to come clean (sort of)before she fucked him. I found it hard to give this situation my blessing but we got through the morning and I headed home... Lots to think about, Right?

As it turns out, my seven hour drive would turn out to be more difficult than I thought. The thought of my smokin' hot girl friend getting screwed by some rich prick was clearly a problem. More concerning was the fact that my cock was so hard that I had to undo my pants to relieve the pressure. I had no idea why I was feeling sexually aroused by the thought of my girl with someone else. It would be the beginning of a long strange trip (thank you Jerry Garcia). I returned home to my work, ranching and my two understanding girlfriends. I tried to forget the elephant in the room but found myself imagining Frankie and Falid fucking often and at the strangest times. Like when I was with Francina or Glenda, I desperately wanted to be with Frankie but didn't know how things were going to be now that we were a trio. She called me on a Thursday quite late which was odd and told me she needed to see me. I told her the soonest I could go up again would be in a couple of weeks, she said If I couldn't go to her she would come to me. Sounded dramatic, I was excited to see her and also a bit apprehensive.

The weekend arrived and she called when she arrived at her folks house, she had caught a ride with a girlfriend from a town over. She looked troubled, we went to the lake to talk. She told me about the party and how this guy that had been hitting on her was there. She told me how after drinking a bit and getting high she had wound up quarreling with him and had left the party. He followed her from the party and eventually convinced her to allow him to take her back to the dorm. They parked a short distance from student housing where they talked, drinking, arguing and eventually making out and winding up in the back seat of his vehicle. He turned out to be quite the stud and my girlfriend was mortified to have let him have unprotected sex with her. Frankie was unable to take birth control due to some complication so we had used condoms, diaphragms and simply pulling out to keep her from getting pregnant during our sexual adventures. She told me she spent the two weeks following that night scared to death she might be pregnant. It was during this time that she had turned to Falid for support as she was afraid to tell me what she had done. During this time she spent entire evenings crying in his arms thinking she had ruined our future and all the plans she had with me. She said he was wonderful and tender and understanding, all things she needed at that very difficult time. She also noticed that while he would hold her he would get a huge erection. She asked him what was going on and he professed his love for her and told her he wanted to be with her. She told him how sweet he was and how she cared for him deeply but she wanted to be with the love of her life and now it might all be gone. She told me how she was feeling all these different emotions and for some reason she reached down and stroked his cock through his pants eliciting an agonizing groan from Falid. Without another thought, she unzipped him and pulled his very large (uncut) shaft free licking his head and taking him in her mouth. He came quickly and she said it was a very special moment for them after the hellish two weeks where he had been there for her every need.

Her period came the next day and she called me almost immediately to arrange to see me now that the near catastrophe had passed. Apparently this infuriated Falid as he thought they had connected over the time spent together. She continued to tell him she was my girl and that wasn't going to change no matter what. After I picked her up that Friday, he called her roomie all weekend and left heart broke messages etc. After I left on Sunday (after she told me she was going to sleep with him) he tried to come over but she told him she needed to do some stuff and managed to avoid him for a couple of days. When they finally got together to study a few days later he was acting like a jilted lover and she had finally had enough. She took him back to his dorm room without saying a word and told him to undress, she had a condom this time and pretty much took the lead on giving him a proper fucking. He was big but he didn't last long and upon finishing asked her if they were going to be together. "Again...No, I'm already with somebody, you know that." she replied. "What kind of girl sleeps with other guys if she's with someone already?" he snorted. "My boyfriend knows, I told him I was going to sleep with you," she said. This resulted in his going off about American women and morals and how this would never happen in Kuwait blah blah blah. This would turn out to be the dumbest thing this idiot could say. No more for you.

At this point Frankie just wanted to see me, tell me everything and be in my arms forever,(her words). I pretty much decided this was the girl I was gonna marry right then and there.

Details emerged during pillow talk over the course of the years about that night with the stud that gave the night a whole new meaning. How she didn't get pregnant I'll never know...

That's in a later chapter.

[dr_zeus]

Thanks for sharing Tire_Kicker, its always interesting to see how others have found their way to this lifestyle.

[rodturn]

Latest pillow talk session from this morning… I asked her if she and Stan always liked having sex in the evening….” No…. Sometimes we fucked in the morning… sometimes we fucked in the afternoon… we never had a set time… we fucked whenever we had a chance… if time was short I just sucked him off” when I first met you I was still seeing Stan but Stan and I both knew he and I were all about the sex and not long term… our sex life started to change a bit”… I asked how so? … her response “ well…. Stan had a big cock and always had such a big load that he pumped into me I knew that I would have cum dripping out of me all day long and knew how wet I’d be when you and I got together that night when I saw you so for a while there sex with Stan revolved more around me sucking him off or anal sex… both of which he loved!”….on those nights you and I met up and Stan had pumped a big load into my pussy and I was still full but dripping cum I wouldn’t let you lick me and made out foreplay short explaining I was super horny and wanted to fuck right now which you were very happy with” .. note…. I knew she was seeing someone on a casual basis when we met and she and Stan were as she said “ all about sex”….she didn’t know how I’d handle the fact that she was most days getting fucked by two guy or was sucking another guys cock in the morning or afternoon before seeing me….. not sure how I would have handled it then but I know how I handle it now …. Minor thing… I was getting sloppy seconds and didn’t know it….

[Tire_Kicker]

Latest pillow talk session from this morning… I asked her if she and Stan always liked having sex in the evening….” No…. Sometimes we fucked in the morning… sometimes we fucked in the afternoon… we never had a set time… we fucked whenever we had a chance… if time was short I just sucked him off” when I first met you I was still seeing Stan but Stan and I both knew he and I were all about the sex and not long term… our sex life started to change a bit”… I asked how so? … her response “ well…. Stan had a big cock and always had such a big load that he pumped into me I knew that I would have cum dripping out of me all day long and knew how wet I’d be when you and I got together that night when I saw you so for a while there sex with Stan revolved more around me sucking him off or anal sex… both of which he loved!”….on those nights you and I met up and Stan had pumped a big load into my pussy and I was still full but dripping cum I wouldn’t let you lick me and made out foreplay short explaining I was super horny and wanted to fuck right now which you were very happy with” .. note…. I knew she was seeing someone on a casual basis when we met and she and Stan were as she said “ all about sex”….she didn’t know how I’d handle the fact that she was most days getting fucked by two guy or was sucking another guys cock in the morning or afternoon before seeing me….. not sure how I would have handled it then but I know how I handle it now …. Minor thing… I was getting sloppy seconds and didn’t know it….

Very Hot!
There's just something about hearing them tell you how big he was and how big the load was he pumped into your girl's pussy that drives me right over the edge.

She usually saves that for right when she wants my load and we cum together.

[rodturn]

Got that right tire kicker!
Love the pillow talk…. Always picking up little gems for later!
Has occurred to me a year or so after finding the wonderful vhs tape of my wife fucking Stan…….i have found ( initially) that it was very very erotic….but…upon further review ( slo mo!) I have used the vhs tape as a training tape…. I replay the tape to see exactly what turned my wife on…. How Stan was able to make her cum so easy when he licked her… I’d watch the expression on her face as he gave her so much pleasure… or to hear her cumming on his cock when he fucked her from behind….. all lessons! In how to please my wife!!!!

[Long Lurker 34]

Got that right tire kicker!
Love the pillow talk…. Always picking up little gems for later!
Has occurred to me a year or so after finding the wonderful vhs tape of my wife fucking Stan…….i have found ( initially) that it was very very erotic….but…upon further review ( slo mo!) I have used the vhs tape as a training tape…. I replay the tape to see exactly what turned my wife on…. How Stan was able to make her cum so easy when he licked her… I’d watch the expression on her face as he gave her so much pleasure… or to hear her cumming on his cock when he fucked her from behind….. all lessons! In how to please my wife!!!!

RT - What every husband needs, a 'How to Manual' on his own wife.
- Is there a web site for this?

[rodturn]

Hey LL. .. good way to put it! We get an instruction manual that teaches us how to use a toaster but nothing when it comes to the female! I’m thinking this website comes the closest if for no other reason than it gives guys a chance to pull back the veil and find out what they want/need and what they’re really thinking… granted…. A tiny glimpse but it’s a start !
I can honestly say now that thanks to the vhs tape ( now digital) I have been able to pick up my game in ways of pleasing my wife…. Happy wife….more sex…. Right?

[Tire_Kicker]

Thanks for sharing Tire_Kicker, its always interesting to see how others have found their way to this lifestyle.

Right? It's like it chooses us.

For decades I didn't know there were so many classifications for all these particular kinks. I can't really say I understand even now.

Remember, some of us are from life before the internet LOL.

[rodturn]

A quote by tank on page 1 of this topic “If they existed and I had access to them, I'd watch porn videos my wife made with boyfriends she had before we met. They could be informative and educational.”…..straight forward stuff!
I am so fortunate to have rescued this vhs tape…has had a lot of influence on us ever since… have never felt jealous and have always found it to be a huge turn on…..last night when we got into bed I knew right away she was feeling frisky…when I asked what had got her going she giggled and said well, I watched myself getting fucked by Stan for a while…. I love sessions that start like that!….. which part was your favourite I asked…”well… I loved all of it but as always.. I loved feeling his throbbing stiff hard cock thrusting so deep into me. From behind while I reached up between my legs a squeezed all of his cum out of his balls deep inside of me!….. then she added… did you see all that cum dripping out of me and running down my legs?…..lol…. A part of the tape I have memorized I assured her with a smile and an even bigger hard cock!

[rodturn]

Well! a bit of a bombshell this morning.....reminds me of the bombshell Frankie unloaded on Tire kicker when she out of the blue announced she was going to fuck Falid ! My wife and I were getting warmed up this morning and the subject of the vhs tape came up and she laid back obviously pondering something quite seriously.....I asked what she was thinking about.....she answered quietly....I was just wondering about something....I pushed gently and asked what?....she replied : I have wondered sometimes what Stan has done with his copy of that tape .... as tire kicker wrote.....Boom!.....I was quiet as you could imagine.....had not really thought about that....but I was now!!!....

[Tire_Kicker]

Well! a bit of a bombshell this morning.....reminds me of the bombshell Frankie unloaded on Tire kicker when she out of the blue announced she was going to fuck Falid ! My wife and I were getting warmed up this morning and the subject of the vhs tape came up and she laid back obviously pondering something quite seriously.....I asked what she was thinking about.....she answered quietly....I was just wondering about something....I pushed gently and asked what?....she replied : I have wondered sometimes what Stan has done with his copy of that tape .... as tire kicker wrote.....Boom!.....I was quiet as you could imagine.....had not really thought about that....but I was now!!!....

So last Sunday I'm just browsing OHW personals while Frankie's making breakfast and I run across an ad for a Bull in Santa Fe saying he's looking to hook up in the Northern New Mexico area. Being that Southern Colorado isn't much further I said "look Babe, this guy's not too far." She sauntered over and read his ad, after a moment she says in this sultry voice, "Oooh, he's Arab, so that means he's big... and uncut."

Falid was her first uncircumcised partner and she was giving him head for a while before she decided to come clean as it were. She told me how she enjoyed rolling the foreskin up and down giving him little licks before taking him into her mouth. She said his cock was velvety and smooth and she loved the feel of it in her mouth, also he would come quickly and her jaw never got tired. Damnit!

Breakfast had to wait.

[Long Lurker 34]

Well! a bit of a bombshell this morning.....reminds me of the bombshell Frankie unloaded on Tire kicker when she out of the blue announced she was going to fuck Falid ! My wife and I were getting warmed up this morning and the subject of the vhs tape came up and she laid back obviously pondering something quite seriously.....I asked what she was thinking about.....she answered quietly....I was just wondering about something....I pushed gently and asked what?....she replied : I have wondered sometimes what Stan has done with his copy of that tape .... as tire kicker wrote.....Boom!.....I was quiet as you could imagine.....had not really thought about that....but I was now!!!....

So last Sunday I'm just browsing OHW personals while Frankie's making breakfast and I run across an ad for a Bull in Santa Fe saying he's looking to hook up in the Northern New Mexico area. Being that Southern Colorado isn't much further I said "look Babe, this guy's not too far." She sauntered over and read his ad, after a moment she says in this sultry voice, "Oooh, he's Arab, so that means he's big... and uncut."

Falid was her first uncircumcised partner and she was giving him head for a while before she decided to come clean as it were. She told me how she enjoyed rolling the foreskin up and down giving him little licks before taking him into her mouth. She said his cock was velvety and smooth and she loved the feel of it in her mouth, also he would come quickly and her jaw never got tired. Damnit!

Breakfast had to wait.

TK - Ok here's a question that I never would have thought to ask. If your wife's Arab FWB? cock with a foreskin is "velvety and smooth", does this then mean those without a foreskin, texture wise, have a different mouth feel?

[Tire_Kicker]

Yup…

According to my girl uncircumcised cocks feel a little more coarse and aren’t as sensitive.

I have really good staying power and can control my orgasm timing mentally to some extent. Naughty pillow talk on her part will push me over and she knows it. When giving head, she can’t talk…

Sometimes we just do a BJ as foreplay and finish inside so her jaw doesn’t get sore. She gives great head and loves to swallow so she feels cheated when she doesn’t get her way.

[NWCouple1963]

I have posted elsewhere about my wife’s past history. She is Thai and worked as a freelance bargirl and also in a sex massage.
She told me after we had been together about a year as she was worried someone else might tell me and it would affect our relationship. We were lying in bed as she told me and I kissed her and assured it was all fine and took her hand and put it on my hard cock to show her how the thought excites me! She told me I was crazy and still does when I ask her to tell me about her past and when I tell her I would love it if she did it again.
I asked her how many men she would see in one day and she said the most was seven!! I also get her to tell me how and where they came and again that excites me beyond belief.
A few days ago I asked what she was thinking about as she came and she told me she was imagining I was one of her customers.
Thanks to everyone for their posts, they make great reading, this is a fantastic forum!!

[rodturn]

Wow! Seven ! That’s some serious pillow talk!
That is a lot of food for thought!
Re Frankie! Love hearing about her pillow talk re Falid!
My last post I talked about my wife’s commute wondering about what Stan did with his copy of the vhs tape…turns out it wasn’t a copy of the tape…. It was another tape… that really got me excited of course! I have been gentle in asking about the contents but have to be patient! My wife has let out a bit and I can tell she is testing… seeing what my reaction is and I have made sure she knows I am receptive and encouraging but it is difficult to not press for more!
Knowing there is another version of a sex tape out there with my wife as a feature player is erotic! My best hope is for her to reconnect with Stan and somehow get at least a copy of it..meanwhile….i will get bits and pieces!
Last night … she offered that it was the second tape they made and it was at his place and that she had had a few drinks… I know she gets really frisky after a couple of drinks so I knew right away the contents on the tape were going to be special and I knew she was going to be more comfortable being naked in front of the camera being it wasn’t her first time !
She knows I am dying to know every detail but is giving me just a few appetizers…. Sex life in the meantime is crazy good!

[rodturn]

Re Frankie !
Ever any discussion about Frankie having another connection with Falid or is just at pillow talk stage going forward?
Now that I know there is another vhs tape starring my wife I have been figuring out how to reconnect her with Stan as that is only possibility of getting a copy of that other tape! Could be a price to pay…. Well… that could lead to a 3rd tape ! Not a bad thing!!

[Tire_Kicker]

Re Frankie !
Ever any discussion about Frankie having another connection with Falid or is just at pillow talk stage going forward?
Now that I know there is another vhs tape starring my wife I have been figuring out how to reconnect her with Stan as that is only possibility of getting a copy of that other tape! Could be a price to pay…. Well… that could lead to a 3rd tape ! Not a bad thing!!

Frankie and Falid had built a close platonic friendship through studying together and socializing in a group setting. As his affection grew for her, he started acting jealous whenever I came to visit because basically, we got a room for the weekend and fucked... a lot. She said he would act all mopey for a few days after I would leave and lay a guilt trip on her about ignoring him. His dorm room wasn't far and so they started spending more and more evenings alone together whenever either of their room mates were out. It was at this point that he started pushing for more.

She told me he was noticeably aroused at times and she felt bad for him. they had made out a little bit but she always stopped him when he started getting handsy. It was at this point that Tony the jock comes into the picture and that is coming in a later chapter.

I can only imagine what it would be like to watch on tape as you have... Wow!

There is a later Frankie chapter posted in the Conference Seminar thread above if you're interested.

[rodturn]

Hey T_k.....I did read your post re the conference .....just might be the best posting on this site!.....no idea how you held yourself back from taking a video or pictures or joining in or going in the room....or....all of the above!.....that there is a lifetime of pillow talk......my suggestion....is when she talks about it you have just one job to do......listen! seeing and hearing live adds another really high level to pillow talk!
Awesome!

[Tire_Kicker]

What I posted is a condensed version, there is a lot of build up, and I basically skipped an entire day. Wait till you read the detailed version along with the day after.

The first time in Vegas is one for the books. The planets aligned for one night, and I got a front row seat. The amount of pillow talk is generated has kept me hard for decades

[sw6]

When I was dating my HW, she'd tell me stories of random hook ups that were so real and detailed I often wondered if they had happened. But we were each others first and only

Then as a HW she would return to me for reclaiming sex during which (or other times) the idea of guys coming in her pussy bare (she was just about always safe) made her go thru such convulsions of desire as she rode me or I fucked her

It was what she really really craved

[Tire_Kicker]

When I was dating my HW, she'd tell me stories of random hook ups that were so real and detailed I often wondered if they had happened. But we were each others first and only

Then as a HW she would return to me for reclaiming sex during which (or other times) the idea of guys coming in her pussy bare (she was just about always safe) made her go thru such convulsions of desire as she rode me or I fucked her

It was what she really really craved

There is definitely something to that bare back element that increases the hotness factor exponentially. My wife will throw it in when she wants me to come... Now!

Interestingly, she's never wanted to be "reclaimed" she wants me to reassure her that I still love her and be held. The next morning is when I get to "make her mine again."

[rodturn]

T_K…..re something about element of wife going bareback…..I have been able to watch cum dripping down the inside of my wife’s thigh as Stan was still pumping his load deep into me wife’s pussy when he was holding he hips tight and thrusting deep into her from behind while she cupped his balls from underneath him between her legs….squeezing every drop of cum into her pussy… over time and being able to watch that part of the tape in slow motion I realized that the cum dripping out of her and running down her inner thighs was from them fucking earlier…..he was pumping a fresh load into her which just made it even more erotic ! Glad for bareback….glad for vhs tape and glad for slo motion!

[rodturn]

Pillow talk last night…. Talking about the tape and my wife said “ did you see at the 17:32 point in the tape? I said oh yeah!
I could see Stan’s cum dripping down the inside of your thighs just as he was pumping another load into you…… my wife said in a very sultry voice….. look again…. I knew his cum was running down my leg…. I could feel every drop ….. what you missed was me….. looking directly into the camera….. the look on my face was to tell Stan how much I was loving that moment… Stan pumping another load of cum into me…. And… his first load dripping out of me at the same time!….. that look was for him because I knew he woul replay that moment in the tape over and over later… I didn’t realize at the time that my future husband would be watching it!!. I have since replayed the tape to 17:32…. Wow! Totally focused on the dripping cum but the most erotic part has quickly become my wife’s look on her face ! To die for!!!!!

[Tire_Kicker]

Pillow talk last night…. Talking about the tape and my wife said “ did you see at the 17:32 point in the tape? I said oh yeah!
I could see Stan’s cum dripping down the inside of your thighs just as he was pumping another load into you…… my wife said in a very sultry voice….. look again…. I knew his cum was running down my leg…. I could feel every drop ….. what you missed was me….. looking directly into the camera….. the look on my face was to tell Stan how much I was loving that moment… Stan pumping another load of cum into me…. And… his first load dripping out of me at the same time!….. that look was for him because I knew he woul replay that moment in the tape over and over later… I didn’t realize at the time that my future husband would be watching it!!. I have since replayed the tape to 17:32…. Wow! Totally focused on the dripping cum but the most erotic part has quickly become my wife’s look on her face ! To die for!!!!!

The look on your woman's face while she is in pure ecstasy is one of the most personal exchanges that can occur between a loving couple. Knowing that someone else has shared that moment with her is both emotional and erotic.

I have a serious foot thing so the curled toes send me to the moon... Boom!

[Bigman]

Lol, me and my gf are in the same stage! I just posted a story about me and her talking about her past lovers.