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Unread post by pasadena95 » Thu Apr 30, 2015 10:11 am

Brian' s apparent lack of interest in pursuing a primary relationship with someone other than Mark's wife might potentially create some problems. Or maybe this has all been sorted out...just wondering.

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Unread post by bubbajack » Thu Apr 30, 2015 10:34 am

I hope when you come back you will be able to report some subtle (or maybe not so subtle :twisted: ) differences in the experience of fucking Juli since she has been doing Brian! :whip: :whip: :mrgreen:

One of the best features of hotwifing for me has been that it's like fucking a different person - sometimes very slight, sometimes more - when I get my shot at that used pussy! :D

Maybe not everyone's cup of tea - and maybe mostly imaginary on my part :oops: - but I sure do love it! :cool:

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Unread post by e101fred » Fri May 01, 2015 10:02 am

co husband is an alright term, i guess it fits, but i aways liked "husband in law". sounds a little more friendly i think

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Unread post by co-husband » Thu May 07, 2015 11:41 am

Just confirmed that Juli will be with Brian tomorrow at his house. Not an overnight but she'll be there in the afternoon. Then Juli and I leave next week for our anniversary trip.
I'll let you know how it goes tomorrow with their meeting.

**To answer bubajack's question...yes, I have noticed a change in Juli's sex drive since she's become active with Brian. She has always had a strong sex drive, but now it's even more powerful I think. She wants sex with me more often and she is more open about initiating sex with me. Also there is less foreplay now because (in her own words..and I admit I'm paraphrasing now)..she is "just so horny (she) wants to get right to it".

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Unread post by joytous3 » Thu May 07, 2015 11:52 am

With any luck at all, after this weekend we'll have a co-husband in the mix for the first time in a couple of years. He appears to be a stellar prospect. As my dad would say, We'll know in the fullness of time. :)

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Unread post by Loves2Watchher » Thu May 07, 2015 5:19 pm

This is my favorite thread on here. Very hot! Love the updates, the evolution and the dynamics. I'm looking forward to the next installment.

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Unread post by D+D » Fri May 08, 2015 6:59 am

**To answer bubajack's question...yes, I have noticed a change in Juli's sex drive since she's become active with Brian. She has always had a strong sex drive, but now it's even more powerful I think. She wants sex with me more often and she is more open about initiating sex with me. Also there is less foreplay now because (in her own words..and I admit I'm paraphrasing now)..she is "just so horny (she) wants to get right to it".

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Unread post by co-husband » Fri May 08, 2015 10:47 am

I have a desire to post some of the thoughts that I'm having right now. I'm sitting at my desk at home working, while my wife is with our friend Brian this afternoon. This is the 6th meeting between them since the Valentine's Day weekend, and they have had sex I'm guessing at least 10 different times during those meetings. It seemed for a while that this experience was just going to settle into a "routine" between the 3 of us, and in a way it has. I guess today I'm just in a more reflective mood and thinking a lot about how amazing this 3-way relationship really is. I admit that I have watched a couple of videos this afternoon of hotwives being shared with Bulls, or boyfriends, as the cuckold husband watches his wife with another man. Seeing a Bull's Cock fully penetrate a married woman, and leaving His seed inside her as he withdrawals, makes the fact that MY wife is, as I write this, in the bed of another man, and it's HIS Cock and Seed that is experiencing the pleasures of my wife's body, so hot for me as the husband!

When I let myself try to comprehend just what it all means, I find that it still seems a bit surreal in a way. It's not just that Brian and Juli are having sex in his bed while I sit at home, but more intense for me is knowing how emotionally bonding it is for a man and a woman to share that level of sexual intimacy. Brian owns Juli's body right now, and that is just so amazing! And it's not just the intercourse, but knowing that they bring each other to orgasm during intercourse (Juli has told me that she orgasms during sex with Brian. That was one of my questions which she answered). And the mutual orgasm is totally exclusive between them. Even I has her husband cannot know exactly how my wife feels at the moment that she orgasms on Brian's Cock. They truly become one and no one else in the world can share in their intimacy.
The holding, the kissing, feeling each other's bare skin on the other's body. Juli's smooth legs wrapped around Brian, pulling him deeper into her body, the closeness, the breathing, and ultimately the climax of Brian's ejaculation, Juli receiving his Sperm into her body. Their mutual sexual release, then collapsing into each other's arms, as they lie in his bed and enjoy the bond of sexual partners.

I'm sure I've repeated much of what I have said in previous posts, but for me, this is what being the husband of a hot wife is all about. The knowing that MY wife is right now so totally being enjoyed by another man, while I sit alone at home waiting for him to return her to me.
There was another post today that I thought was great, and I posted a comment there. It's about why husbands find it so satisfying to let another man cum inside his wife bareback. It's a recommended read!

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Unread post by steve1x1 » Fri May 08, 2015 10:58 am

Continuing on with another guy who Is in love and not just in lust with my wife is bad news. I have had two guys fall in love with her and both times it turned out bad. Why screw with someone's emotions like that. If they don't understand they are just a play thing to be used when she wants however that may be for our pleasure as a couple then its not going to work out very long.

All that will do is create drama. The guy needs to realize he get to have his way with her body and even enjoy her mind, but her heart is off limits.
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Unread post by malnik » Fri May 08, 2015 11:16 am

Mark...you said you think you have said this many times previously.

Personally I enjoy that you are feeling this. I could read how you feel, your descriptions of Juli and Brian, know I you understand the depth of their intimacy. Seeing you recount this is why I do what I do with couples, having sex with another mans wife, seeing the angst it causes.....although I think you are embracing it more than many.

Enjoy Mark, I know I am!

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Unread post by Zona » Fri May 08, 2015 10:47 pm

steve1x1 wrote:Continuing on with another guy who Is in love and not just in lust with my wife is bad news. I have had two guys fall in love with her and both times it turned out bad. Why screw with someone's emotions like that. If they don't understand they are just a play thing to be used when she wants however that may be for our pleasure as a couple then its not going to work out very long.

All that will do is create drama. The guy needs to realize he get to have his way with her body and even enjoy her mind, but her heart is off limits.
I'm going to go with Steve on this one. I've had those same thoughts from the very beginning of this thread.

And I know we are probably in the minority here.

Sharing a wife's body with another man is one thing. Sharing her heart is something entirely different.

Yes, I fully understand that most hotwives need to have some feeling of intimacy with their lovers. And, yes, I fully understand that for some husbands this is actually what they want. I assume that is what Mark wants, thus his placement of this thread on the Poly Forum

It seemed to me that this was going to work out well, because Juli appeared to have it under control. And because she was self-limiting the number of occasions everything was going to to stay under control.

But it appears to me that the frequency of these events is increasing, thus Mark is at increasing risk of becoming the secondary husband--not just the "co-husband", but the SECONDARY husband--in his wife's heart. And is that really what he wants?

If I were Mark, I'd be certain this is crystal clear with all three people involved--and that Juli especially knows that it is SHE who has the responsibility to see that this remains a fun thing for all three, not the disaster that could very well be looming if the escalation in the frequency of these events continues at the pace it appears to be.

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Unread post by gamma » Sat May 09, 2015 6:17 am

Well worth the repeating, Mark! :D

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Unread post by Samanthasman » Sat May 09, 2015 9:40 am

Zona wrote:
steve1x1 wrote:Continuing on with another guy who Is in love and not just in lust with my wife is bad news. I have had two guys fall in love with her and both times it turned out bad. Why screw with someone's emotions like that. If they don't understand they are just a play thing to be used when she wants however that may be for our pleasure as a couple then its not going to work out very long.

All that will do is create drama. The guy needs to realize he get to have his way with her body and even enjoy her mind, but her heart is off limits.
I'm going to go with Steve on this one. I've had those same thoughts from the very beginning of this thread.

And I know we are probably in the minority here.

Sharing a wife's body with another man is one thing. Sharing her heart is something entirely different.

Yes, I fully understand that most hotwives need to have some feeling of intimacy with their lovers. And, yes, I fully understand that for some husbands this is actually what they want. I assume that is what Mark wants, thus his placement of this thread on the Poly Forum

It seemed to me that this was going to work out well, because Juli appeared to have it under control. And because she was self-limiting the number of occasions everything was going to to stay under control.

But it appears to me that the frequency of these events is increasing, thus Mark is at increasing risk of becoming the secondary husband--not just the "co-husband", but the SECONDARY husband--in his wife's heart. And is that really what he wants?

If I were Mark, I'd be certain this is crystal clear with all three people involved--and that Juli especially knows that it is SHE who has the responsibility to see that this remains a fun thing for all three, not the disaster that could very well be looming if the escalation in the frequency of these events continues at the pace it appears to be.
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There is always a lot of debate about this topic and a lot of people argue that this is a bad idea or that it's ok. Another thing to consider is that for some perhaps it is the only idea?? In other words, some woman can't have sex without emotion and some seem to be wired for poly.

Personally I wish my wife just lusted for headless well hung studs to bang her relentlessly. I'm thinking of a whore to the guys in the 300 movie ;). However, alas, that's of zero interest to her.
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Unread post by SailorGuy » Sat May 09, 2015 11:58 am

You are so right about how surreal it is to know that your dear wife is - at this very moment - in the arms of another man. I've never been allowed to be with my wife and her lover, or even to watch them together. I've had to depend on my wife's stories. One of them stands out in particular.
It was a warm summer day about ten years ago. Though they had already been lovers a few times it seems their connections happened fast and in a darkened room at night. On this occasion it was a late afternoon in the summer when she went to visit him. She lay down on his bed in a room still warmly lit by the sun. He took of her pants and, as is his custom with my wife, began licking her cunt. She still had on her black tank top. As he licked her she rubbed her chest and nipples - remember, my wife is absolutely flat as a board, with huge thick nipples that get almost 2" long when erect. They certainly were erect now! She then peeled off her top and stretched out, revealing not only how perfectly flat she is but also showing her lover her incredibly hairy underarm bushes.
Her lover came up from his licking and then lay down next to her and just gazed at her - my wife, totally naked, stretched out, legs partially spread. He had never seen her like this. He whispered, " my god, you are SO beautiful..."
This one image just stays in my mind, timeless and beautiful.
He then began kissing and sucking her enormous nipples, and licking and stroking the thick, long hair under her arms. He then began kissing her. My wife then rolled him onto his back and then slid down to his urgent and very large erect cock. She loving licked and kissed and sucked; he began to breathe fast and to moan. My wife - my dear, beautiful, slender, muscular, flat-chested beloved wife of 20 years - then climbed up on top of his massive cock and took him into her. He brought her to a gushing, squirting climax, drenching him and his bed. Then she again took his cock deep into her mouth and he exploded into her. My dear wife drank up every drop of his huge load.
Surreal? Absolutely! Nothing has ever come close to topping the intensity go this.

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Unread post by bubbajack » Sat May 09, 2015 1:05 pm

Granting that people's personalities, their needs, their strengths, their vulnerabilities, differ greatly, not only due to the complexity of each individual, but also due to changes in people over time, it's pretty hard to be sure what's going to happen in any particular case of extramarital sexual involvement.

Yet there do seem to be some patterns affecting the probabilities that some given or hypothetical amount or intensity of extramarital sex will undermine the marital relationship. The problem is that the critical patterns are not easy to define or to describe. In this respect we are all a bit like the US Supreme Court justice who said he couldn't define the kind of pornography which states could criminalize, but said, "I know it when I see it"!

One complication we encounter often here, however, seems to be due to the plain fact of what WH Auden wrote of as "... The error bred in the bone/Of each woman and man,/ To crave what they cannot have,/ Not universal love,/ But to be loved alone ... ".

Our culture's standard of monogamous marriage, even when its implied sexual exclusivity is elaborated a bit for adventure's sake by consensual "openness" , one-way, two-way, poly or whatever, still seems to support people's resting in their erroneous belief that marriage can supply what in truth they cannot have - which is as Auden says, "to be loved alone" without there being any obligation to love back, with all that that can entail, or without the beloved enjoying other loves that can be entertained without loss.

I don't say that loving other people never brings about loss in a loving relationship - that would be a ridiculous claim and also would falsify some unhappy history of my own.

But it is equally absurd to say that every intense loving relationship must diminish or negate in intensity every other loving relationship that a person might have - even if (or, as some, under the influence of our culture's implied messages about marriage would have it, especially when) sex is involved. I am in the camp of those who believe that the character of love, whether or not it is expressed sexually, is not the same as the character of a scarce commodity, although it can be mistakenly thought to be the same.

The foregoing is just a long-winded plea for suspending judgment about Juli, Mark and Brian. If something bad happens I will of course be sad; but so far it all looks very lovely and loving for all three, at least from here. :)

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Unread post by D+D » Sat May 09, 2015 1:43 pm

Well said bubbajack. Well said. I concur.

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Unread post by co-husband » Tue May 12, 2015 8:23 am

Thanks everyone for your comments. I always appreciate every one.

Juli told me that she and Brian enjoyed their time together on Friday afternoon at his house. I know they had sex one time while she was there, and I got to experience sloppy seconds about an hour after she got home! I did ask her what time of the afternoon that she and Brian had sex and based on the time she told me, Brian had cum inside her about 3 hours before I entered her. I could definitely feel that silky, wet feeling that others have described here. It felt very slick and I could tell she wasn't as tight as usual. It was so amazing just to know what it was that I was feeling inside my wife...another man's sperm!
I definitely didn't last very long so it was a quickie, and I thought that whole time about Brian being inside Juli so recently that I could still feel his sperm inside her!

I know I always receive comments of caution about how this 3-way relationship can get out of control emotionally, and hurt our marriage. I do understand that concern, and I'm not totally devoid of caution. Neither is Juli and I'm convinced that even Brian is being cautious as well. Sex is such an intensely emotional act between two people, that even at our age, and as strong as Juli and I are in our commitment and love to each other, we can't be over confident and let our guard down. So the reminders here of that danger are genuinely appreciated.

The thing I'm learning about sharing my wife with another man, is just how real the experience is. By that I mean, I went from the "theory" of how sharing my wife might feel..to the reality of how it is to actually have another make love to her. I think the actual experience is so intense, that it still seems a bit surreal to me. It's hard sometimes to wrap my mind around how big of a step this was, to allow Brian to share in such an intimate part of our marriage. I don't mean to sound like I'm having second thoughts..because I'm definitely not. I do love this arrangement! I just want to honestly share my thoughts and feelings with you in this forum.

I think what is so amazing to me, is how that wife-sharing has to include some emotions that are inherently negative, such as jealousy, humiliation, isolation, fear. There is a certain level of all of these negative emotions present when sharing one's wife with another man, but those same emotions are what causes the sharing to be so arousing. Just like tears and laughter are very closely related things, so too are the emotions of wife-sharing. As a husband, I am naturally jealous of a man who sleeps with my wife, but at the same time, I WANT him to sleep with my wife because that jealousy is intensely arousing sexually.
Of course as a husband, I feel a certain level of humiliation when I'm around the man who is taking my wife in his bed, but that same humiliation is what makes me want him to take her. When I sit alone at home knowing he is enjoying my wife in the most intimate way, it is a feeling of isolation. I am isolated from sharing in what only they are experiencing when they are alone, but that is so arousing that I WANT to sit at home alone, thinking about what he is doing with my wife.

It's hard to explain but I know the cuckold husbands and even the Bulls in this forum know what I'm talking about. The emotional paradox of wife-sharing cannot be fully explained, and adding the fact that each couple, or 3-some is different, makes it that much more inexplicable. But as of now, I am very happy, and so is Juli and Brian. But we are also very cautious and take nothing for granted.

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Unread post by D+D » Tue May 12, 2015 1:06 pm

I know exactly what you mean

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Unread post by blndewifehubby » Wed May 13, 2015 5:36 pm

I'm just curious how many times it has to be brought up. After every encounter, someone feels the need to explain to him the need for caution, and the risks involved. I'm pretty sure he gets it.
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Unread post by Squirming69 » Wed May 13, 2015 7:54 pm

As others on this forum, I truly do understand and can relate to the emotional paradox.
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Unread post by D+D » Thu May 14, 2015 6:03 am

blndewifehubby wrote:I'm just curious how many times it has to be brought up. After every encounter, someone feels the need to explain to him the need for caution, and the risks involved. I'm pretty sure he gets it.
I totally agree. This couple is mature, obviously intelligent, in love, and know what they want. Pretty darned sure that there's no train wreck in their future, just three people getting what they want and need.

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Unread post by edwinash » Thu May 21, 2015 2:24 am

As a newcomer, I have been gripped by Mark’s story. It is Juli and Brian’s story too, albeit at arm’s length. Mark’s frank account is both heartwarming and nail-biting.

I should like to comment and to ask Mark if he would be so kind as to throw light on one or two unclear aspects. I apologise if the answers are in the text and I have missed them

First, Brian getting the green light for sex with Juli is perhaps the most crucial stage of the whole story. But when did this happen and how? Mark recalls during the later weekend away when Juli and Brian shared a room, that “Back in February when we first began this 3-way relationship with Brian, we did discuss with him about Juli not wanting a condom to be used during sex …” There were earlier references to sitting down for a 3-way discussion in advance, to set the boundaries, but it does not seem to have happened. Neither did the explicit permission, Mark to Brian, foreshadowed in his posting of Jan 28. “I will mention to Brian that I am ok if Juli wants to go back to his room …”

Mark’s postings over the few weeks before Valentine suggest that the following explanation seems most likely. Mark told Juli he was OK if Brian had sex with her, she mulled it over, came back for his confirmation, which included Mark’s erotic feelings if it happened and his affirmation that he did not seek other women as a quid pro quo. She decided she was herself in favour. She then told Brian, one-to-one not with Mark present, that it would be OK with Mark and with her. At some point it was she who also said to Brian that she wanted bareback sex. So it was Juli who organised the key question (though Mark organised the scene for the first and at least one further occasion.) Is all that a fair summary of what actually happened?

Secondly, Mark says Brian is decent and a gentleman. But he does not seem to have actually thanked Mark directly and personally for being able to make love with Juli. Later on, at the weekend event, he did thank Mark indirectly for “letting him come along on this get-away.” Do we conclude that Brian’s personality inhibits him from a simple thank you to his long term friend was too difficult for him in some way? Might he wrongly think that it was Juli who had persuaded Mark, not Mark who had proposed it? That would explain the inhibition more convincingly.

Thirdly, can Mark confirm that Juli did not know that he was giving a running account in the Poly Forum? Presumably she knew that Mark was posting her pics as the pic posting rule 4.1 requires her permission, but did she get to enjoy the appreciative comments on the thread? (Personally, knowing the immediate context I found the pic of Juli downstairs in the hotel the morning after wearing a modest skirt and top, sensible sandals and a wide smile far more erotic than the other shots of her, delightful as they were.)

Fourthly, widening the second query above, there are three points of view here, but we only really know Mark’s. His mission is simply to enjoy being cuckolded by Brian, provided Juli enjoys the sex and tells him at least something about it, and that he is able to reclaim her, preferably soon after Brian’s ejaculation.

What is Juli’s mission? I suggest that at its simplest it is to provide full emotional and sexual support for both the men who love her, and she loves, in their different ways. In the interests of all three she remains in charge. She skilfully adapts to Mark’s revelation about wanting to be cuckolded. She meets Brian’s needs with a natural extension of their close near-platonic relationship into sexual intimacy. And she much enjoys sex with Brian. She actively works towards her mission, remaining selectively silent to both Mark and Brian about some of her thoughts and the activities in order to prevent disharmony. However, is there evidence that she fully understands Mark’s deepest erotic desires? To hear that Brian is bigger than he is, that Brian has more stamina, that Juli gets better orgasms with Brian? And for Juli to tell him her feelings when Brian is inside her? She seems to have set her mind against talking about comparisons, so perhaps she has not yet grasped Mark’s full intentions.

What is Brian’s mission? That is the least clear, because nearly all information about him is second hand. A reasonable assumption is that his goal is to get Juli’s loving support as much and as far as he possibly could. When this was extended to include physical love, his Christmas turned up early at Valentine’s! His feelings and attitudes to Mark remain only speculative to us so far. Juli must know quite a bit about them but judges that she should remain silent about them to Mark. Brian thinks that it is Juli who engineered matters, maybe that she herself persuaded Mark to agree. Cuckolding Mark his old friend is rather embarrassing and is best just accepted not explicitly discussed. He knows that Juli has “permission” to sleep with him but that is enough for him. He depends on Juli to hold the relationships together. Despite the long friendship with Mark he does not know that Mark gets a huge erotic kick from Brian’s cuckolding him and would have difficulty understanding it.

Early on a contributor suggested a 3-way discussion with an expert psychotherapist . If it were possible this could pay dividends now if they were all able to be candid about thoughts and wants. Juli might be relieved of some of her responsibility for holding it all together. Brian and Mark might be more open with each other. Mark might get to know some of the practical details that many cuckolds are eager to hear about.

Again with huge thanks to Mark for his courageous recording of events. He seems to have been well rewarded so far!

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Unread post by Mia » Thu May 21, 2015 10:42 am

edwinash wrote:As a newcomer, I have been gripped by Mark’s story. It is Juli and Brian’s story too, albeit at arm’s length. Mark’s frank account is both heartwarming and nail-biting.

I should like to comment and to ask Mark if he would be so kind as to throw light on one or two unclear aspects. I apologise if the answers are in the text and I have missed them

First, Brian getting the green light for sex with Juli is perhaps the most crucial stage of the whole story. But when did this happen and how? Mark recalls during the later weekend away when Juli and Brian shared a room, that “Back in February when we first began this 3-way relationship with Brian, we did discuss with him about Juli not wanting a condom to be used during sex …” There were earlier references to sitting down for a 3-way discussion in advance, to set the boundaries, but it does not seem to have happened. Neither did the explicit permission, Mark to Brian, foreshadowed in his posting of Jan 28. “I will mention to Brian that I am ok if Juli wants to go back to his room …”

Mark’s postings over the few weeks before Valentine suggest that the following explanation seems most likely. Mark told Juli he was OK if Brian had sex with her, she mulled it over, came back for his confirmation, which included Mark’s erotic feelings if it happened and his affirmation that he did not seek other women as a quid pro quo. She decided she was herself in favour. She then told Brian, one-to-one not with Mark present, that it would be OK with Mark and with her. At some point it was she who also said to Brian that she wanted bareback sex. So it was Juli who organised the key question (though Mark organised the scene for the first and at least one further occasion.) Is all that a fair summary of what actually happened?

Secondly, Mark says Brian is decent and a gentleman. But he does not seem to have actually thanked Mark directly and personally for being able to make love with Juli. Later on, at the weekend event, he did thank Mark indirectly for “letting him come along on this get-away.” Do we conclude that Brian’s personality inhibits him from a simple thank you to his long term friend was too difficult for him in some way? Might he wrongly think that it was Juli who had persuaded Mark, not Mark who had proposed it? That would explain the inhibition more convincingly.

Thirdly, can Mark confirm that Juli did not know that he was giving a running account in the Poly Forum? Presumably she knew that Mark was posting her pics as the pic posting rule 4.1 requires her permission, but did she get to enjoy the appreciative comments on the thread? (Personally, knowing the immediate context I found the pic of Juli downstairs in the hotel the morning after wearing a modest skirt and top, sensible sandals and a wide smile far more erotic than the other shots of her, delightful as they were.)

Fourthly, widening the second query above, there are three points of view here, but we only really know Mark’s. His mission is simply to enjoy being cuckolded by Brian, provided Juli enjoys the sex and tells him at least something about it, and that he is able to reclaim her, preferably soon after Brian’s ejaculation.

What is Juli’s mission? I suggest that at its simplest it is to provide full emotional and sexual support for both the men who love her, and she loves, in their different ways. In the interests of all three she remains in charge. She skilfully adapts to Mark’s revelation about wanting to be cuckolded. She meets Brian’s needs with a natural extension of their close near-platonic relationship into sexual intimacy. And she much enjoys sex with Brian. She actively works towards her mission, remaining selectively silent to both Mark and Brian about some of her thoughts and the activities in order to prevent disharmony. However, is there evidence that she fully understands Mark’s deepest erotic desires? To hear that Brian is bigger than he is, that Brian has more stamina, that Juli gets better orgasms with Brian? And for Juli to tell him her feelings when Brian is inside her? She seems to have set her mind against talking about comparisons, so perhaps she has not yet grasped Mark’s full intentions.

What is Brian’s mission? That is the least clear, because nearly all information about him is second hand. A reasonable assumption is that his goal is to get Juli’s loving support as much and as far as he possibly could. When this was extended to include physical love, his Christmas turned up early at Valentine’s! His feelings and attitudes to Mark remain only speculative to us so far. Juli must know quite a bit about them but judges that she should remain silent about them to Mark. Brian thinks that it is Juli who engineered matters, maybe that she herself persuaded Mark to agree. Cuckolding Mark his old friend is rather embarrassing and is best just accepted not explicitly discussed. He knows that Juli has “permission” to sleep with him but that is enough for him. He depends on Juli to hold the relationships together. Despite the long friendship with Mark he does not know that Mark gets a huge erotic kick from Brian’s cuckolding him and would have difficulty understanding it.

Early on a contributor suggested a 3-way discussion with an expert psychotherapist . If it were possible this could pay dividends now if they were all able to be candid about thoughts and wants. Juli might be relieved of some of her responsibility for holding it all together. Brian and Mark might be more open with each other. Mark might get to know some of the practical details that many cuckolds are eager to hear about.

Again with huge thanks to Mark for his courageous recording of events. He seems to have been well rewarded so far!

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Re: Another man loves my wife

Unread post by D+D » Fri May 22, 2015 6:28 am

A great synopsis and some great ideas and questions put forth. Can hardly wait for an update from Mark.

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Re: Another man loves my wife

Unread post by SailorGuy » Fri May 22, 2015 2:20 pm

My wife's lover took a while to understand and accept the situation between my wife and me. His attraction to her was planted long before he became her lover. He'd been in love with her for several years, ever since he and his wife and daughter moved into our neighborhood. My wife is beautiful, warm, friendly, gracious. What's not to like about her?
As I've written before, this man's marriage came to an end, my wife felt bad for him, her heart went out to him. When he made his move on her he had no idea of my fantasy. He was just so in love with my wife he just couldn't hold it back anymore. And with his wife moved away and me being away for the weekend, well he just went for it. And boy was he surprised how my wife responded to him!
After they'd been lovers a few times he naturally wanted to know what was going on with me and her - he sort of presumed she was unhappy in her marriage, since her she was in his bed after all. She didn't feel comfortable telling him about my fantasy; I think she told him we had an "open marriage" and left it at that.
As time went on and their lovemaking became more and more intimate - actually I think it may have been the first time she spent the entire night at his house - he confessed his love for her. When she came home to me she told me about this and we had to figure out what to do. This had been a hot wife fantasy of mine; now it was something more. I asked my wife if she loved him. She hesitated a few seconds, and then said, quietly, yes she did love him. But then she quickly reiterated that she loved me and was 100% committed to our marriage. Now that her love affair had gotten complicated she offered to end it. She did NOT want to do anything to jeopardize our marriage.
Oddly enough, the fact that love had entered the situation aroused me even more than I already was. It also made the whole thing more solid, more mature. And I also remembered that my wife was not the kind of girl who engaged in sex for just the hell of it. It's just not in her personality. What IS in her personality is to be loving. And she was making love to this other man because she loved him. The fact that making love to him was giving her the best sex of her life was a nice addition to the whole thing, but it wasn't her sole motivation.
So our hot wife fantasy evolved into a polyamorous relationship for my wife. She told her lover what her views were and told him about our relationship being loving and devoted but no longer sexual. She told him she loved him and would be happy to be his lover, and that she loved her husband and was committed to her marriage. I suppose he must have scratched his head quite a bit, but he understood and happily accepted his role in my wife's life. It must be hard for him because my wife is someone you'd want to marry and settle down with. I have no idea what he thinks about his future. He might want to marry again, but he can't marry my wife. But he loves her deeply.
I wonder if things like this can last forever? It's been nice for a long time now...

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